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  • Andrew Pratt
    Moderator Emeritus
    • Aug 2000
    • 16507

    request for beta testers

    Ok as some of you have requested Rotel has changed the way the volume is displayed on the OSD...its now numbers instead of bars. They have also fixed a bug in the muting that I found where changes in the volume when mute was engaged removed the word "muting" from the display. They've also changed the sub levels in the test tones...how I'm not sure but its in the notes I got. Now here's where you come in...this is only a beta firmware so I'm looking for some voluneers to test it out before it goes public. So if you're interested fire me an email with the version you need (i.e. 1.49 or 2.25)




  • MuShu007
    Member
    • Jun 2002
    • 61

    #2
    Andrew

    YGM!

    Mike

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    • Rock Dog
      Moderator Emeritus
      • Jan 2003
      • 417

      #3
      I'm gonna make up a data cable today or tomorrow. So what the heck. I'll give it a try.

      YGM!




      -Thomas-

      The easiest way to find something lost around the house, is to buy a replacement.

      Hey You! Make sure you stop by the HTguide Off-Topic section. It's FUN!!!

      -Thomas-

      As long as people will accept crap, it will be financially profitable to dispense it.

      Hey You! Make sure you stop by the HTguide After Midnight section. It's FUN!!!

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      • Andrew Pratt
        Moderator Emeritus
        • Aug 2000
        • 16507

        #4
        Thomas I need to know which version you need.




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        • Andrew Pratt
          Moderator Emeritus
          • Aug 2000
          • 16507

          #5
          as i thought this firmware will work with the 1055's as well.




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          • SayersWeb
            Member
            • Dec 2002
            • 82

            #6
            Just made a cable today..... I need the 2.x version.

            What is the risk involved with beta testing?




            Sayer - Musical Creations and Home Page
            Sayer - Musical Creations and Home Page

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            • Andrew Pratt
              Moderator Emeritus
              • Aug 2000
              • 16507

              #7
              risk is very small since its been tested by Rotel but there's always a chance they missed something. That said even if it didn't work it should just be a matter of installing the old firmware over top of it....of course there's no garuntee and HTG won't be responsible should anything occur Still I'll be installing it on my 1055 as soon as I get the chance as I did for the last firmware when I beta tested it as well.

              Ps Sayers i need an email from you inorder to send it back to you




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              • Mats
                Special Member
                • Jun 2000
                • 1326

                #8
                I just wrote a mail and my cable is already connected

                Continue Rotel! It`s the right way!




                Left forum because sold Rotel gear
                Mats
                Mats Strömberg
                Ah! It's a profit deal! Takes the pressure off! Get your weight guessed right here! Only a buck! Actual live weight guessing! Take a chance and win some crap!
                Navin R Johnson (alias Steve Martin)

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                • Rock Dog
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 417

                  #9
                  OK! Well the beta software is in. Since I only had the RSP-1066 for a few days , I am not as familiar with some of the functions as some of the others. So I most likley will only notice really blatant things. But so far I like what I see. The volume number instead of that annoying bar in the OSD. Replacing the "Rec" device with the volume number in the right side of the display ;x( . Having the word Multi show up in the left side of the display instead of just the little red icon. I have quite a few DVD-Audio disks. And I found it bothersome right off the bat that I could not tell if I was in Multi mode or not without toggling back and forth. :T :-y

                  :banana:




                  -Thomas-

                  The easiest way to find something lost around the house, is to buy a replacement.

                  Hey You! Make sure you stop by the HTguide Off-Topic section. It's FUN!!!

                  -Thomas-

                  As long as people will accept crap, it will be financially profitable to dispense it.

                  Hey You! Make sure you stop by the HTguide After Midnight section. It's FUN!!!

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                  • oerjan
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 5

                    #10
                    Also the 1066 will unmute when adjusting the volume

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                    • Andrew Pratt
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      • Aug 2000
                      • 16507

                      #11
                      Got 1.49 installed on my 1055 and all seems well!




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                      • JohnSC
                        Member
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 77

                        #12
                        Andrew,

                        Count me in.

                        John

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                        • Kevin D
                          Ultra Senior Member
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 4601

                          #13
                          2.2.5 up here on a 1066 and all seems fine!

                          Kevin D.

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                          • JohnSC
                            Member
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 77

                            #14
                            Sorry Andrew, I meant to say count me in for V1.49.

                            John ops:

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                            • SayersWeb
                              Member
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 82

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Andrew Pratt
                              Ps Sayers i need an email from you inorder to send it back to you
                              I sent it to your email address in your profile.

                              Thanks! :-)




                              Sayer - Musical Creations and Home Page
                              Sayer - Musical Creations and Home Page

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                              • Mats
                                Special Member
                                • Jun 2000
                                • 1326

                                #16
                                It`s upgraded and everything is working fine.

                                Perhaps they could change the delay setting. I don`t think about the 5ms steps perhaps it would be possible to input the distance in meters and it will set the delay (in 5ms steps internal)

                                Would it be possible just to add a sub delay? 5ms stepps would be better than nothing.




                                Left forum because sold Rotel gear
                                Mats
                                Mats Strömberg
                                Ah! It's a profit deal! Takes the pressure off! Get your weight guessed right here! Only a buck! Actual live weight guessing! Take a chance and win some crap!
                                Navin R Johnson (alias Steve Martin)

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                                • AlvaroD
                                  Member
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 67

                                  #17
                                  I'm in too, for a 1.49

                                  Thanks !

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                                  • WallaceBW
                                    Member
                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 78

                                    #18
                                    I Havn't found anything quirky yet... All works as expected....

                                    Brian

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                                    • sdecker
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jun 2002
                                      • 122

                                      #19
                                      Can somebody send me a copy of 1.49?
                                      Use s.decker@snet.net
                                      Thanks

                                      Earle

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                                      • Scotty
                                        Junior Member
                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 8

                                        #20
                                        I'd like to give 2.25 a shot on my 1066! And thanks Andrew for keeping us all in the loop! 8) E-mail is on my profile...



                                        I have a grip on reality--just not this particular one. 8O

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                                        • Andrew Pratt
                                          Moderator Emeritus
                                          • Aug 2000
                                          • 16507

                                          #21
                                          if you guys want it email me

                                          I did send it to scott and sdecker though




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                                          • RogueAngel
                                            Member
                                            • Jun 2002
                                            • 69

                                            #22
                                            Okay, I got 1.49 installed tonight and yes it powered up correctly.

                                            I must say however I am a bit dismayed that they reversed the decision on the muting control. As I remember, 1.48 had it the way we all voted on it - muting stays engaged when the volume control is used allowing you to lower or raise the volume while in mute.
                                            1.49 now releases the mute when the volume control is used.

                                            I found the previous control more useful since it allowed the level to be adjusted when switching sources (especially the tuner) without being blasted.

                                            So my vote is to put it back the way it was in 1.48. I do like the change in the OSD volume display...........much nicer.

                                            More to come later, when I'm able to do some more tweaking.

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                                            • sdecker
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Jun 2002
                                              • 122

                                              #23
                                              Got it...

                                              Thanks Andrew

                                              Earle

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                                              • dali
                                                Member
                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 48

                                                #24
                                                Regarding MUTE disengagement and volume control, is MUTE disengaged for both increase and decrease in volume?

                                                I would prefer if MUTE is disengaged when you increase the volume, but stays engaged as long as you only decrease the volume. That way you can lower the volume if it was set far too high without risking ear damage in the process.

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                                                • oerjan
                                                  Junior Member
                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 5

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by dali
                                                  I would prefer if MUTE is disengaged when you increase the volume, but stays engaged as long as you only decrease the volume. That way you can lower the volume if it was set far too high without risking ear damage in the process.
                                                  I vote for that function also, good idea!

                                                  -OErjan-

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                                                  • Brent Briscoe
                                                    Junior Member
                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                    • 13

                                                    #26
                                                    Hi Andrew I would like to try it I bought my 1066 in Decemeber. Does this mean I would have version 2.xx? What do I need to do to be able to install these changes?

                                                    Thanks
                                                    Brent

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                                                    • Andrew Pratt
                                                      Moderator Emeritus
                                                      • Aug 2000
                                                      • 16507

                                                      #27
                                                      I also would prefer the muting function to work the that way as well...let me see what I can do

                                                      Brent you'll need an upgrade cable and a PC to do the firmware upgrade. there's a bunch of information on my site here that will get you started.




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                                                      • AlvaroD
                                                        Member
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 67

                                                        #28
                                                        Hello Andrew

                                                        do you got my email yesterday ?

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                                                        • Andrew Pratt
                                                          Moderator Emeritus
                                                          • Aug 2000
                                                          • 16507

                                                          #29
                                                          I thought I responded to all the requests? did I miss yours?




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                                                          • WallaceBW
                                                            Member
                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                            • 78

                                                            #30
                                                            Also I would like a way to blank out the front panel display:

                                                            I.E.

                                                            1) Press button (or button sequence) on the remote
                                                            OR
                                                            OSD menu option
                                                            1.a) Front panel goes blank
                                                            2) You adjust something on the 1066 (volume, source, listem mode, etc)
                                                            2.a) The display comes on for five seconds to allow you to see your changes -- (timer '5 sec' restarts with each keypress)
                                                            2.b) Timer expires... Display goes blank
                                                            3) Repeat button (or button sequence) from step 1
                                                            OR
                                                            OSD menu option
                                                            3.a) Front panel comes back on and stays on (normal operation)

                                                            I would LOVE that...

                                                            Brian

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                                                            • AlvaroD
                                                              Member
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 67

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Andrew Pratt
                                                              I thought I responded to all the requests? did I miss yours?
                                                              I think so.

                                                              Here's my email :
                                                              ajds@noos.fr

                                                              Version 1.49

                                                              Thanks a lot.

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                                                              • JKohn
                                                                Senior Member
                                                                • Jun 2002
                                                                • 109

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by WallaceBW
                                                                Also I would like a way to blank out the front panel display:

                                                                I.E.

                                                                1) Press button (or button sequence) on the remote
                                                                OR
                                                                OSD menu option
                                                                1.a) Front panel goes blank
                                                                2) You adjust something on the 1066 (volume, source, listem mode, etc)
                                                                2.a) The display comes on for five seconds to allow you to see your changes -- (timer '5 sec' restarts with each keypress)
                                                                2.b) Timer expires... Display goes blank
                                                                3) Repeat button (or button sequence) from step 1
                                                                OR
                                                                OSD menu option
                                                                3.a) Front panel comes back on and stays on (normal operation)

                                                                I would LOVE that...

                                                                Brian
                                                                Brian, this feature already exists! (I discovered it by accident). Just press and hold the menu key for 5 seconds.




                                                                Jeff Kohn
                                                                Jeff Kohn
                                                                http://home.houston.rr.com/jeffkohn

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                                                                • Andrew Pratt
                                                                  Moderator Emeritus
                                                                  • Aug 2000
                                                                  • 16507

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I asked Rotel about the change in the mute function from 1.48 to 1.49 and it turns out someone at one of the major trade mags (not important who) wants it the way it is now. I asked about another option for us that would like it not to unmute itself but logistically they can't support two different versions of the same firmware so we're basically out of luck on this one.




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                                                                  • JKohn
                                                                    Senior Member
                                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                                    • 109

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Andrew Pratt
                                                                    I asked Rotel about the change in the mute function from 1.48 to 1.49 and it turns out someone at one of the major trade mags (not important who) wants it the way it is now. I asked about another option for us that would like it not to unmute itself but logistically they can't support two different versions of the same firmware so we're basically out of luck on this one.
                                                                    This is lame, why should Rotel care more about one bozo at a magazine than the majority of their customers. Having mute disengage when lower the volume is stupid, stupid, stupid. I'm not aware of a single device I've ever owned that works this way. I'd like to know who the magazine bozo is so we can write him and tell him how stupid he is.

                                                                    If you want mute to disengage when raising the volume, OK maybe I can understand that. But it shouldn't disengage when lowering, that makes no sense. The new mute functionality will make it pretty much useless for me.




                                                                    Jeff Kohn
                                                                    Jeff Kohn
                                                                    http://home.houston.rr.com/jeffkohn

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                                                                    • WallaceBW
                                                                      Member
                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 78

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Cool.... I'll try it when I get home...

                                                                      It's even in the manual...DOH...

                                                                      ops:
                                                                      Brian

                                                                      BTW: as for the mute button thing... Check the reviews linked off of rotel's site... HINT: Try the newest one

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                                                                      • RogueAngel
                                                                        Member
                                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                                        • 69

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I'd have to agree with Jeff on this one - really lame. They go to the trouble of asking us what we want, we tell them, and they listen - makes us think, "Wow, they listened to us. How cool is that!". But, now the other shoe drops and we can forget the consumers desires for a bit; after all, we already spent our money, and go with ONE other person's opinion. If this sticks, I'm thinking Rotel drops down a notch or two IMHO.

                                                                        I can reload 1.48 and get it back the way I want that feature, but then I'm stuck when something critical, like bass management, is issued. :cry:

                                                                        Not good, I'm not a happy camper over this one. If they aren't going to listen to us, please don't bother wasting my time asking the question.

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                                                                        • Todd S
                                                                          Junior Member
                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                          • 21

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Todd

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                                                                          • Todd S
                                                                            Junior Member
                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                            • 21

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Having the Mute disengage when ramping the volume down is dumb. Even my wife, no offense wife, knows the pitfalls of doing it that way. Hey maybe my wife should take over bozo's job!

                                                                            Todd
                                                                            Todd

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                                                                            • JKohn
                                                                              Senior Member
                                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                                              • 109

                                                                              #39
                                                                              OK, now I go read the review, and he says (emphasis mine)

                                                                              When Mute is engaged, it can be disengaged only by pressing the Mute button again, not by turning up the volume
                                                                              So in other words, even the review didn't ask for Mute to disengage when turning down the volume, Rotel just screwed up. Andrew, please point somebody from Rotel to this thread and let them know we're not happy about this.




                                                                              Jeff Kohn
                                                                              Jeff Kohn
                                                                              http://home.houston.rr.com/jeffkohn

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                                                                              • Andrew Pratt
                                                                                Moderator Emeritus
                                                                                • Aug 2000
                                                                                • 16507

                                                                                #40
                                                                                I sent them another email...we'll see




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                                                                                • Florindi
                                                                                  Junior Member
                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                  • 3

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Hi Andrew,
                                                                                  Thanks for the firmware!
                                                                                  However, I found one problem so far with DD EX source. You were able to manually set this option and it would store the EX option on the 1066. Now you have to manually set it everytime you change the channel on SAT TV. It's not as bad for DVD since you set this at the beginning of a movie. But, this is still a pain.
                                                                                  Please address this with Rotel. I noticed also that whether you have DD EX on or not with episode II or Monsters Inc you still here info coming from the rear centers. What's the difference of having this feature enabled?

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                                                                                  • Mats
                                                                                    Special Member
                                                                                    • Jun 2000
                                                                                    • 1326

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I like the muting feature the way it is now (2.25)
                                                                                    Just my $0.02




                                                                                    Left forum because sold Rotel gear
                                                                                    Mats
                                                                                    Mats Strömberg
                                                                                    Ah! It's a profit deal! Takes the pressure off! Get your weight guessed right here! Only a buck! Actual live weight guessing! Take a chance and win some crap!
                                                                                    Navin R Johnson (alias Steve Martin)

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                                                                                    • Andrew Pratt
                                                                                      Moderator Emeritus
                                                                                      • Aug 2000
                                                                                      • 16507

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I noticed also that whether you have DD EX on or not with episode II or Monsters Inc you still here info coming from the rear centers. What's the difference of having this feature enabled?
                                                                                      Even if you disable EX or ES rotels XS processing will take over and try to utilize all the channels so it will send information to the rear centre regardless.




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                                                                                      • JohnSC
                                                                                        Member
                                                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                                                        • 77

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        The firmware works fine. I have to agree with the mute issue though. It shouldn't disengage when adjusting the volume.

                                                                                        John

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                                                                                        • Trevor_J
                                                                                          Member
                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                          • 51

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
                                                                                          Andrew, I sent you an e-mail.

                                                                                          Volume on the OSD is JUST what I need! Now all they need to do is fix that stupid implemenation of the mute button and it will be perfect (for me).

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