Best acoustic panel for listening room?

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  • leo2498
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 370

    Best acoustic panel for listening room?

    Hi guys I want acoustic treatment to my room (many thanks for the advise Kal) but I not know which is better bass traps or acoustic panels for my type of room. anyone knows the ATS acoustic panels? what do you use in your rooms? any advise? my room you can see in this link http://www.blu-ray.com/community/gal...&folderid=6706
    Leo,
    Saludos
    My HT: B&W 804D fronts, HTM4D center, 805D rears, Classe CA-2300 Main amp, Preamp Stereo CLASSE CP800, Preamp Multi Marantz AV8801, Parasound A31 center and Surround Amp, Source Oppo BDP-95 screen Samsung 55" UE55d8000 SVS SB12-NSD

    Stereo: B&W 804S fronts, Pre: Denon AVR-2809 Amp: Rotel 1582, Source Marantz CD5004.
  • Kal Rubinson
    Super Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 2109

    #2
    There is no generic advise. I suggest you read up on how to do this (e.g., Everest's Master Handbook of Acoustics, websites like Bob Gold's, etc.) and/or get consultations from some of the reliable suppliers (e.g., RealTraps, GIKacoustics, ATS, etc.).
    Kal Rubinson
    _______________________________
    "Music in the Round"
    Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
    http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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    • leo2498
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 370

      #3
      Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
      There is no generic advise. I suggest you read up on how to do this (e.g., Everest's Master Handbook of Acoustics, websites like Bob Gold's, etc.) and/or get consultations from some of the reliable suppliers (e.g., RealTraps, GIKacoustics, ATS, etc.).

      thanks Kal for the tip and the name of the book, I will read it. my question about the ATS panel was because this panel are sell in amazon and is more easy for me get it and import them but I read in a forum that it is not a real bass trap and they not do any improvement in sound. I don't have any dealer or professional in my city the only option is to do it myself.
      Last edited by leo2498; 06 April 2012, 23:37 Friday.
      Leo,
      Saludos
      My HT: B&W 804D fronts, HTM4D center, 805D rears, Classe CA-2300 Main amp, Preamp Stereo CLASSE CP800, Preamp Multi Marantz AV8801, Parasound A31 center and Surround Amp, Source Oppo BDP-95 screen Samsung 55" UE55d8000 SVS SB12-NSD

      Stereo: B&W 804S fronts, Pre: Denon AVR-2809 Amp: Rotel 1582, Source Marantz CD5004.

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      • Kal Rubinson
        Super Senior Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 2109

        #4
        ATS markets a number of different types of panels which would be expected to have different performance.
        Kal Rubinson
        _______________________________
        "Music in the Round"
        Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
        http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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        • wkhanna
          Grumpy Old Super Moderator Emeritus
          • Jan 2006
          • 5673

          #5
          You may be able to purchase the materials and make your own, or have them made for you.
          _


          Bill

          Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob
          ....just an "ON" switch, Please!

          FinleyAudio

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          • Isaac
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 151

            #6
            I have had good luck with Realtraps (Guilford) and Ready Acoustics (Chameleon) products.

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            • wkhanna
              Grumpy Old Super Moderator Emeritus
              • Jan 2006
              • 5673

              #7
              Link to Eathan Winer article.
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              Bill

              Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob
              ....just an "ON" switch, Please!

              FinleyAudio

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              • PewterTA
                Moderator
                • Nov 2004
                • 2901

                #8
                I think that's my next "project" is to figure out what I need to makes things sound better. Course that's after I get my speakers.
                Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                -Dan

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                • wettou
                  Ultra Senior Member
                  • May 2006
                  • 3389

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
                  There is no generic advise. I suggest you read up on how to do this (e.g., Everest's Master Handbook of Acoustics, websites like Bob Gold's, etc.) and/or get consultations from some of the reliable suppliers (e.g., RealTraps, GIKacoustics, ATS, etc.).
                  Yes very good, an other one is that is a recommended read for anyone who cares about sound is:

                  Sound Reproduction: The Acoustics and Psychoacoustics of Loudspeakers and Rooms

                  By Floyd Toole
                  Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                  • Kal Rubinson
                    Super Senior Member
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 2109

                    #10
                    Originally posted by wkhanna
                    Link to Eathan Winer article.
                    Leo-

                    This is a great link. You should e-mail Ethan if you need specific advice. I had dinner with him last night and I mentioned you.

                    Kal
                    Kal Rubinson
                    _______________________________
                    "Music in the Round"
                    Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
                    http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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                    • leo2498
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 370

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
                      Leo-

                      This is a great link. You should e-mail Ethan if you need specific advice. I had dinner with him last night and I mentioned you.

                      Kal
                      Hi Kal,
                      thank you very much for talked to ethan about it, I'll read the article and send a email very soon.

                      thanks guys for your support with this thread.
                      Leo,
                      Saludos
                      My HT: B&W 804D fronts, HTM4D center, 805D rears, Classe CA-2300 Main amp, Preamp Stereo CLASSE CP800, Preamp Multi Marantz AV8801, Parasound A31 center and Surround Amp, Source Oppo BDP-95 screen Samsung 55" UE55d8000 SVS SB12-NSD

                      Stereo: B&W 804S fronts, Pre: Denon AVR-2809 Amp: Rotel 1582, Source Marantz CD5004.

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                      • gene9p
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 11

                        #12
                        I just installed these...very inexpensive and easy to hang and so far I am enjoying the sound improvement


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                        • Kal Rubinson
                          Super Senior Member
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 2109

                          #13
                          Originally posted by gene9p
                          I just installed these...very inexpensive and easy to hang and so far I am enjoying the sound improvement


                          http://www.unitedplastics.com/consumer-my-theater.php
                          I am suspicious of panels that are (1) only 1" thick, (2) made of undefined material and (3) not provided with test data to demonstrate capability.
                          Kal Rubinson
                          _______________________________
                          "Music in the Round"
                          Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
                          http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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                          • gene9p
                            Junior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 11

                            #14
                            There are definitely a lot better..but for those on a budget ,they work damn good.Here's a little more info:





                            They are available factory direct, sam's club online, Sears.com online, and Audio Advisor .com

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                            • Kal Rubinson
                              Super Senior Member
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 2109

                              #15
                              Made of 1" fiberglass (of undefined density), it is unlikely they have any effect at all below midrange frequencies. If you add consideration of the solid (cardboard) backing, you also lose the ability to offset them from their mounting surface and extend the absorbtion to a lower frequencies a bit. I would predict that they would deaden the HF reflections a bit but have little or no effect at lower frequencies and are totally ineffectual in even upper bass where most rooms have the greatest needs. It is disappointing that the reporter for HTGUYS didn't do any measurements even though he says he uses REW.

                              Well, they are cheap but, imho, not worth even that when one can do much better DIY.
                              Kal Rubinson
                              _______________________________
                              "Music in the Round"
                              Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
                              http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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