How do you listen to music on your HT system? Do you listen using a surround mode like Dolby PLIIx and DTS or do you listen just through 2 speakers using a 2-Channel mode?
How do you listen to music on your HT system?
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Originally posted by IsaacHow do you listen to music on your HT system? Do you listen using a surround mode like Dolby PLIIx and DTS or do you listen just through 2 speakers using a 2-Channel mode?
when source is Apple TV or CD, then DTS Neo 6 Music
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I use Bypass and listen in 2-channel. On rare occasions, I'll play with the surround modes in my Yamaha RX-V1..
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Usually two channel from my ERC-1 Emotiva CD Player in Direct(same as bypass above), but when lots of folks are over and we are all over the house I will put it into 7 channel stereo mode."You get what you Inspect, not what you Expect"
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I used to use "bypass" so that it was not distorted by any processing, until Dolby created DPL IIx. Now I use it all the time, which I think only enhances the music, not distorts it.CHRIS
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Depends. For some music, I use just stereo mode. Direct Source is a bit better, but it kills my sub signal. I have Nautilus 805's as my main speakers. I need the sub. :B
For some music, I like to use DPL IIx and sometimes Marantz' own multi-channel music (sounds better than DPL-IIx with a lot of music).B&W 804S/Velodyne SPL-1000R/Anthem MRX720- Bottom
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im still comparatively a bit of a purist in this respect because i like to have the soundstage of the content to be as the producer of the content wanted me to experience it
so for stereo music it has to remain stereo because having speakers playing at different locations IMHO will reproduce identical frequencies at different phase relationships to each other which will not only affect the tonality by creating cancellations due to the contrasting phase but also the soundstaging and imaging also tend to get ruined
and the idea is that not all music is just there to make a noise so why try to spread it over multiple speakers since if the artist or producer intended it to be experienced in a multichannel environment it would have been a multichannel recording - if its recorded in stereo mode the other items that people consider enhancements i consider artificial - as for multichannel music to me it just isnt realistic to try and imagine that you are on the stage while any music is being performed cos that could only happen if you were one of the artiste's and performing as well
obviously if i was listening to a 7.1 channel DTS HD(ma) recording then i would want to listen to it with all the speakers playing because the producer intended me to hear it that way but stereo from a cd for example is best played back as stereo from a CD - it can not be enhanced with all those effects IMHO .... but that is only my own opinion and as such anyone is free to disagree with it :W- Bottom
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I personally could never stand any simulated surround modes. Just sounds too unnatural and gimmicky to me. 2-channel music sounds best in straight mode as it originally is to me... My B&W 804S's already have a very 3D and enveloping soundstage once the sweet spot is dialed in so no gimmicky simulated crap needed anyway! I honestly would like to utilize my entire surround kit 100% of the time, but like I said, all simulated surround modes just sound too unnatural and gimmicky. If they could sound as natural as listening to a natively encoded surround track like the Eagles Hole In The World 5.1 DVD then I would use it! I mean what do you really expect? It's expanding and encoding on the fly! Not like it's a sound engineer sitting there re-doing and re-tweaking it over and over until it's exactly right! Or maybe I've never heard a truly good DSP yet...- Bottom
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I'll approach this thread from a different angle because I've got a 2-channel system (floorstanders and a sub).
When I watch music DVDs I always evaluate the different tracks on the DVD, i.e. LPCM or DD 2.0 or DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1. Often the differences between the tracks are minimal. Sometimes the differences are substantial, usually being how prominent particular instruments (including vocals) are in the mix and sometimes where the instruments are in the soundstage.
To be really geeky I have recently been using a freeware piece of software called MediaInfo to provide me with a basic analysis of what's on the DVD. For example, does a higher Kbps mean better quality? The answer is generally yes if it's on the same DVD but it's not necessarily the case from one DVD to another. A good recording at a lower Kbps usually betters a lesser recording at a higher Kbps.
Apologies for the hijack.
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I was always a purist, up until DPL IIx came out. Before that, every sound processing mode I tried from every manufacturer was, at best, a DETRACTOR of musical quality. I would only listen to music in its original format.
However, I feel that Dolby did SO well with DPLIIx, that it did not change or detract from the sound, and for the first time I felt that it actually ENHANCED the music. So now, yes, I use DPLIIx for ALL media, both music and movies. I really like the soundfield that it pulls back to envelop AROUND the listener. Much more multi-dimensional, not just a flat line of sound thrown at you.CHRIS
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My MUSIC system is a 2.1 speaker system, like is said before, I got to have a subwoofer. My amp is a RSX-1056 receiver with my B&W's set to small speakers. I use it in stereo 2-channel mode which still uses the subwoofer for 80hz and below. I can't imagine it sounding better.- Bottom
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I own 3 types of music discs:
1. Redbook CD (mostly studio recordings) - which I play in 2-Channel Stereo (by-passing any processing and using CD player DAC) and not utilizing the sub.
2. Blu-ray (mostly live multi-channel recordings) - played in multi-channel (limited to my 5.1 setup) using the best lossless soundtrack on the disc.
3. DVD-Audio - my CD player can read DVD-Audio lossless MLP soundtracks and output in stereo which is played back as per 1 above.- Bottom
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I listen to two-channel music through my Logitech Transporter, connected via analog outputs to my Denon AVR-3808CI receiver. Since my L/R speakers are not full range, the Denon is set to Stereo (2.1). Audyssey is engaged, as it makes a HUGE improvement to the sound quality in my living room.
I listen to multi-channel music (DVD-A, SACD) through my Oppo BDP-83, connected via HDMI. The Denon applies Audyssey again, to the multi-channel PCM. SACDs are converted to 88.2kHz PCM by the Oppo, rather than running DSD straight to the Denon.
Blu-rays (music and movies) are bitstreamed to the Denon, enabling Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio to play in their full glory. Of course, Audyssey is applied here as well.Brad- Bottom
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For listening to two channel cd's and LP's, I listen in stereo (no sub, speakers set to large), when listening to my sacd's or dvd-a's, I listen to my 5.1 channel surround. Every once in a while, I will change it up and listen to NEO 6 or 5 channel stereo, but not very often.- Bottom
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I use DIRECT mode on my Denon 3808ci receiver.
I do not really like my music in surround unless it was originally encoded for it via blu-ray, SA-CD, or DVD-Audio.
Then again, I have never really played around with the other modes in the newer model receivers. Maybe I'll play around with it later today and see what I think.Panasonic TC-P65VT30
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Originally posted by emig5mI personally could never stand any simulated surround modes. Just sounds too unnatural and gimmicky to me. 2-channel music sounds best in straight mode as it originally is to me... My B&W 804S's already have a very 3D and enveloping soundstage once the sweet spot is dialed in so no gimmicky simulated crap needed anyway! I honestly would like to utilize my entire surround kit 100% of the time, but like I said, all simulated surround modes just sound too unnatural and gimmicky. If they could sound as natural as listening to a natively encoded surround track like the Eagles Hole In The World 5.1 DVD then I would use it! I mean what do you really expect? It's expanding and encoding on the fly! Not like it's a sound engineer sitting there re-doing and re-tweaking it over and over until it's exactly right! Or maybe I've never heard a truly good DSP yet...- Bottom
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Sadly, the UMC-1s DSP modes are unusable because they cannot be adjusted. DPL and DTS Neo:6 in their music modes are quite nice. Also, my surrounds don't get the delay from the miniDSPs that my front channels do. I will have to buy another miniDSP for the surrounds so that the delay can be adjusted. Not a big problem, but another $160 expenditure. I see no sense to try to emulate a control room or theater as the sound in them is not known for its fidelity. Personally while I love live music I am very much an introvert (Meyers-Briggs INFP) and I prefer listening at home.Last edited by Theresa; 28 November 2010, 11:04 Sunday.- Bottom
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Originally posted by TheresaMeyers-Briggs INFP.
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Originally posted by TheresaI like DSP as on my now broken DSP-A1..
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Originally posted by David Meekat this point in my life am an INTJ.CHRIS
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Originally posted by Chris DIs that the one that's labeled "Mastermind"? Very rare in the human population..
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Wellllll... it doesn't HAVE to mean "brilliant military strategist", or "swarthy evil criminal genius".
I prefer "dashingly good lookin' smart person that does things rationally".CHRIS
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Originally posted by wettouI use Dolby Prologic IIx unless I listen to SACDs or Blu Ray then source direct- Bottom
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