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  • tec333
    Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 42

    freezing your components and cables?



    I came accross this on the web. Since I am quite new to this, I would like to know what people think of this. Is this just all B.S.?

    Tec
  • Chris D
    Moderator Emeritus
    • Dec 2000
    • 16877

    #2
    Funny, and interesting...

    It was my understanding in the past that cryogenics CAN add value to many metallic objects and IS used by multiple manufacturers, however, I thought it was only during the manufacturing process of shaping and forming the metal.

    I'd have to question the capability or value of using cryogenics AFTER a product has been manufactured and assembled.
    CHRIS

    Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
    - Pleasantville

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    • Alaric
      Ultra Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 4143

      #3
      It works on connecting rods-the critter between the piston and crankshaft in an engine.
      Lee

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      Schiit Modi 3
      Marantz CD5005
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      • Chris D
        Moderator Emeritus
        • Dec 2000
        • 16877

        #4
        Aha! That's right... that's one of the places that I've heard of using cryogenics before. But again, itsn't that during the manufacturing process Alaric? And not aftermarket?
        CHRIS

        Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
        - Pleasantville

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        • tec333
          Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 42

          #5
          I see how this would work well for a component like a forged alluminum or titatnium rod. Since this piece is subjected to heat, stress and etc. I can see this being performed after production as a treatment.

          But for electronics - to make it sound better?

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          • wkhanna
            Grumpy Old Super Moderator Emeritus
            • Jan 2006
            • 5673

            #6
            Brake rotors, cam shafts, tranny gears and a bunch of other car/motor stuff too. It has a way of ‘finishing’ the tempering process. Swiss watch makers used to bury their metal in caves in the Alps for years before they would make parts from it. It is not ‘snake oil’, it is actually proven to change the properties of ferrous metals.

            However, i have never heard of it changing the electrical properties of metal. But at Absolute Zero, there is theoretically no resistance, so let’s one of us volunteer to put our system in a tub of liquid nitrogen and see if improves the SQ!
            _


            Bill

            Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob
            ....just an "ON" switch, Please!

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            • dyazdani
              Moderator Emeritus
              • Oct 2005
              • 7032

              #7
              Originally posted by Chris Dotur
              It was my understanding in the past that cryogenics CAN add value to many metallic objects and IS used by multiple manufacturers, however, I thought it was only during the manufacturing process of shaping and forming the metal.

              I'd have to question the capability or value of using cryogenics AFTER a product has been manufactured and assembled.
              That is my understanding as well. I'm not sure what physical impact a cryo treatment would have on a metal after forming. I don't believe in it, but many people do...
              Danish

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              • brac
                Member
                • Aug 2005
                • 90

                #8
                You can pay like $800 and they will freeze the barrel of your favorite rifle. This is after manufacture?? But still you knows if it does anything...
                Brac

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                • brac
                  Member
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 90

                  #9
                  Ok,
                  I send it my cat if it lives they can do my AMPS>>>

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                  • r100gs
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2005
                    • 321

                    #10
                    I turn the heat off at night.
                    Jay

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                    • Chris D
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 16877

                      #11
                      Again, Aha! We're on to something here... for true sound performance, cool your theater to -20 degrees Fahrenheit before playing anything, and it will sound better. (?)

                      Okay, even if it doesn't sound better, you won't be able to tell, because you'll be shivering so much.
                      CHRIS

                      Well, we're safe for now. Thank goodness we're in a bowling alley.
                      - Pleasantville

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                      • Alaric
                        Ultra Senior Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 4143

                        #12
                        hmmmmm...

                        Wouldn't the air density at -20F affect the sound waves? I would think lower frequencies would have a harder time moving through the more tightly packed molecules.
                        As for super-cooling engine parts , I believe BMW uses the technique , along with "fracturing" rod caps for a stronger joint.
                        Also , the Cray supercomputers use liquid nitrogen to keep the processors at 0 degrees because of the almost resistance-free properties. Perhaps freezing the innards would create a good effect , but my amp actually sounds better after it warms up . The manufacturers who see this thread are probably cringing right now after decades of designing equipment that works at room temp! If nothing else we'll keep 'em on their toes!
                        Lee

                        Marantz PM7200-RIP
                        Marantz PM-KI Pearl
                        Schiit Modi 3
                        Marantz CD5005
                        Paradigm Studio 60 v.3

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