Originally posted by ThomasW
You're gonna love this.... Greek Column Sonosub!
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We may be good people, but we have a little bit of sickness. She has decided to go with the fancy capital I posted a few answers back. She was very excited and jumping up and down over it.
Steve nn, you're welcome to lay down on the virtual couch and spill your problems anytime!
SteveC, giggity giggity giggity. I don't know. You need to get that house and those other monsters built.
What is it about "Steve" and bass. Is there a correlation? I need a government grant to explore this phenomenon.- Bottom
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You need to get that house and those other monsters built.- Bottom
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Originally posted by SteveCallasGetting the monsters built is no problem - getting a decent house....a bit tougher :B Back in Lafayette, you could get a good house for $175. Here in St. Louis, I'm looking at $210 minimum just for something decent. I think I'm making good money for my age, but the idea of taking a big loan and paying so much in interest over the years doesn't interest me too much. I'm patient though - the Three Amigos will unite one day to form a trifecta of limitless bass capability.- Bottom
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Aww, Qwitcherwhining! 350 might get you into a single family house near here, but do you want decent schools with that? 210 won't get you a 900 square foot condo. There are lots of places worse, too. There seems to be a pretty direct correlation between where you might like to live and cost of housing. Go figure.- Bottom
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well, if we're talking about real estate...
I think they're leaving off about three zeros. I just moved out of a 600 square foot condo in Berkeley, CA that the owner was trying to sell for $375,000. You want a back yard in the San Francisco bay area? The average price of a house in SF county is $875,000, and the cheapest county in the area (Solano, I believe) averages $450,000.
I can't wait to get out of this area and get a garage! I envy you guys with your $200,000 houses.-Joe Carrow- Bottom
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$210?!? A month? With A/C and no roaches? Where was that again? Here $450 will get you A/C, and $600 will get rid of the roaches. My 900 sqft duplex is $750! You've got to be talking weekly, right?
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Originally posted by joecarrowI think they're leaving off about three zeros. I just moved out of a 600 square foot condo in Berkeley, CA that the owner was trying to sell for $375,000. You want a back yard in the San Francisco bay area? The average price of a house in SF county is $875,000, and the cheapest county in the area (Solano, I believe) averages $450,000.
I can't wait to get out of this area and get a garage! I envy you guys with your $200,000 houses.- Bottom
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Originally posted by opt-eDitto for Vancouver. In the past 10 years prices have doubled, tripled, and quadrupled in some cases. :E Doesn't help that we're hosting the 2010 Winter Olympics in four years. Not a good time for potential first time home owners such as myself. Definately a seller's market these days.
Yes, a garage is nirvana! 3 & 4 car garages are really heaven sent! A barn out back would be incredible, too.
About 10 years ago, when I lived in Aspen, CO. the bottom line price of a home was at 1 million dollars. Then the city realized that no one who had to work could live near their so they started employee housing projects where you could get a 2 bedroom condo for around 300,000. Try being a waiter or waitress and making those payments. Why it would be hard to afford a sonosub at those prices!- Bottom
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And on the subject of Greek columns..... This capital will cost $440.70, take a 3 week lead time, shipping is extra, and ,get this, weigh 170 pounds. The good news is that there is a 9 inch diameter hole in the center. The measurement at the top is approx. 30 3/4" square. They recommend a 27" square base.
I hope a 16 inch sonotube will hold up a 170 pound load on top of it. Needs some more investigation, I think.- Bottom
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And on the subject of Greek columns..... This capital will cost $440.70, take a 3 week lead time, shipping is extra, and ,get this, weigh 170 pounds. The good news is that there is a 9 inch diameter hole in the center. The measurement at the top is approx. 30 3/4" square. They recommend a 27" square base.
I hope a 16 inch sonotube will hold up a 170 pound load on top of it. Needs some more investigation, I think.
Cast plaster is heavy. Might continue shopping to see if you can find some made with structural foam. Much lower weigh and significantly lower cost.
Remember the ID/OD thing with regard to the tube and the opening in the capitals
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Chuck-
Interesting project. For what it's worth...
I'm going to guess that having one column sub is going to look a bit odd, when actually placed in the room. These things tend to look _much_ better in pairs. So that leads to the idea of either making one column sub and one dummy sub to match. OR: Two smaller, matching subs to get the same output as one big one. That could help with the weight of some of the tops you're finding, if there are smaller versions available.
And I have to say: This is now officially the most mature discussion board on the entire web. Chuck posts a picture of this lady and not a single comment in response. :T- Bottom
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Originally posted by JonWChuck-
I'm going to guess that having one column sub is going to look a bit odd, when actually placed in the room. These things tend to look _much_ better in pairs. So that leads to the idea of either making one column sub and one dummy sub to match. OR: Two smaller, matching subs to get the same output as one big one. That could help with the weight of some of the tops you're finding, if there are smaller versions available.
And I have to say: This is now officially the most mature discussion board on the entire web. Chuck posts a picture of this lady and not a single comment in response. :T
Either the most mature or we all just hide out and gaze.....- Bottom
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Originally posted by ThomasWCast plaster is heavy. Might continue shopping to see if you can find some made with structural foam. Much lower weigh and significantly lower cost.
Remember the ID/OD thing with regard to the tube and the opening in the capitals- Bottom
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Originally posted by w8liftrChuck, I have seen those made of cast foam before, like ThomasW said, much lower weight and cost. I'll check a few sources around here and let you know if anything turns up.
Fancy Column Caps, Corinthian, Temple of Winds, Ionic, Tulip, Wall Caps, Cut Coral Columns, Shutters, Balustrades,
And guess where they are located?
3510 N.W. 53rd Street
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33309
They are less than 5 miles from house!- Bottom
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Originally posted by chasw98Thats why I think she will end up with a second full size column in her room. She already has 2 columns in the room.
Originally posted by chasw98They are less than 5 miles from house!
Originally posted by chasw98Either the most mature or we all just hide out and gaze.....- Bottom
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Originally posted by JonWAnd they say that Florida has no culture. Hah! Foam reproductions of ancient Greece. How can that not be called culture?! :P
Yeah, or we're just getting too old and slow for such things... :unsure: :P
I will be too old when I get too slow for such things 8O- Bottom
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Originally posted by chasw98Florida has culture. Their biggest request is to paint faux columns in a coral color!
And thinking more about the broader implications of your project here...
This could work for so many more clients and audiences... I see subs for many different people:
-Make it a square column, with a pointy top, like the Washington Monument, for history buffs.
-A rounded top sonosub with aluminum sheeting around, looking like a grain silo, for the farmers in need of deep bass.
-Put fins around the lower part of a sonosub and a cone on top, for the NASA rockets scientists.
-Cover one in bark, have branches sticking out the sides, for the more eco-minded bass lovers. Or just people who like large house plants.
You get the idea.- Bottom
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Yikes, looks like it was dropped off the conveyer belt at the sorting facility. Or thrown out of the back of the delivery truck.
Over the years I've had more significantly problems with FedEx than UPS ...FedEx Ground consists primarily of subcontractors and isn't nearly as good as regular FedEx.
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Originally posted by chasw98Yep, I'm gonna use the tried and true classic of the moment. RL-p15 D2, EP2500, BFD. Can you check my modeling for 7.75 cu feet in a 16 inch tube and 35 inch port length, 6 inch diameter for a 16 Hz tune? Thanks.- Bottom
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Unfortunantly, Mike was out of D2's so I got a D4. I will run 4 ohms on each channel. I currently run my D4 wired in parallel so that the amp sees a single channel of 2 ohms and have had no problems. The other channel on the amp drives a pair of rear surround speakers in parallel for an impedance to the amp of 4 ohms (2 8 ohm speakers). HTH
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how was it pkg'd from the mfg'r? I've had a few Tumults
shipped from around the country...bolted to a wood baffle
and then 4-2x2 braces connecting to another 18" baffles.
The boxes take some abuse but damn the drivers are always
fine. Two Aurasound-18s were likewise well boxed yet mishandled
by Fed-ex. Bax Global is the way to go for big items or heavy
expensive items.
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It came in a heavy duty cardboard box with a cardboard ring around the magnet structure and a cardboard ring around the "throat" where the magnet structure meets the frame. That cardboard ring is reinforced against the edges of the box. It seems flimsy now that I had one that broke, but it got thrown around a lot.- Bottom
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Originally posted by chasw98Unfortunantly, Mike was out of D2's so I got a D4. I will run 4 ohms on each channel. I currently run my D4 wired in parallel so that the amp sees a single channel of 2 ohms and have had no problems. The other channel on the amp drives a pair of rear surround speakers in parallel for an impedance to the amp of 4 ohms (2 8 ohm speakers). HTH
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A 4 ohm load is a always a better idea than a 2 ohm load.
IB subwoofer FAQ page
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Here is the beginning of the end. I have "mocked" up the base of the column to see how it will appear visually.
My first thoughts are to remake the doughnut around the sonotube and make it 1 1/2" tall with a 3/4 roundover on it as opposed to the 3/4" tall with a 3/8 roundover as shown. There will be a base plate that is 24" square for the bottom. The square angled section is 22" square. I should be getting the capitol on Friday.- Bottom
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Chas, I agree that the ring around the base should be more substantial. I also think that the corner posts (providing the air space) should be at least 2-3 times as thick as those in your mock up to provide visual balance. The big heavy looking column should have substantial "feet".
I'm just a big heavy guy that likes big heavy things, so what do I know? Very Cool idea.- Bottom
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I agree with what has been said so far, and I think it would look nice to make the legs fancy, maybe something like this Q-leg 1?
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Also, I'd bet that small air space (3"?) between the driver and base plate will at least partially load the driver.- Bottom
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Actually, in the end the legs will not be visible. I am going to make velcro removable grilles that will go on all 4 sides to give the impression that the base is solid. The legs are 4 1/2 inches tall and will be sitting on a removable base (driver access) that will be 24 inches square. The grilles will be covered with cloth that will match the paint job the lady is going to have put on the column. BTW, the capitol is ready for me to pick up and I should get it today.
I do agree with Bob's comment that the "doughnut" needs to be beefier. More work!- Bottom
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I gotcha. On a hunch, let me know if the air displacement by the driver can "un velcro" any of the velco connection with demanding material when its done :B Probably won't, but that would be something if it did.- Bottom
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