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  • leo2498
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 370

    CP-800 doubt

    Hi guys, I wondering if is possible use some input of the CP800 in bypass option for Home theater use?
    Leo,
    Saludos
    My HT: B&W 804D fronts, HTM4D center, 805D rears, Classe CA-2300 Main amp, Preamp Stereo CLASSE CP800, Preamp Multi Marantz AV8801, Parasound A31 center and Surround Amp, Source Oppo BDP-95 screen Samsung 55" UE55d8000 SVS SB12-NSD

    Stereo: B&W 804S fronts, Pre: Denon AVR-2809 Amp: Rotel 1582, Source Marantz CD5004.
  • wildtangent
    Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 50

    #2
    Originally posted by leo2498
    Hi guys, I wondering if is possible use some input of the CP800 in bypass option for Home theater use?
    No doubt about it.

    From page 26 of the CP800 user manual.



    Pass-Thru
    Selecting Pass-Tru locks the volume at 0.0 dB for this source and passes the
    signal through the preamp without changing its level. This feature is useful to
    avoid having two volume controls active such as when the preamp sits between
    an SSP and the L&R channel amplifers. Note that the Pass-Tru mode is available
    for digital as well as analog sources.

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    • stuofsci02
      Super Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 1241

      #3
      Yes.. You can assign "pass through" on the inputs which sets the volume gain to 0db. This can be done on both digital and analog inputs.

      Cheers

      Stuart


      Edit: Beaten to it...
      Main System:
      B&W 801D
      Emotiva USP-1 Pre-Amp
      Chord SPM-650 Stereo Amp
      Oppo BDP-105
      Squeezebox Touch


      Second System:
      B&W CM7
      Emotiva UMC-1
      Emotiva UPA-2
      Oppo BDP-83SE
      Grant Fidelity DAC-09

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      • leo2498
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 370

        #4
        Originally posted by stuofsci02
        Yes.. You can assign "pass through" on the inputs which sets the volume gain to 0db. This can be done on both digital and analog inputs.

        Cheers

        Stuart


        Edit: Beaten to it...
        thanks again!!! well I think that I could have a winner!
        Leo,
        Saludos
        My HT: B&W 804D fronts, HTM4D center, 805D rears, Classe CA-2300 Main amp, Preamp Stereo CLASSE CP800, Preamp Multi Marantz AV8801, Parasound A31 center and Surround Amp, Source Oppo BDP-95 screen Samsung 55" UE55d8000 SVS SB12-NSD

        Stereo: B&W 804S fronts, Pre: Denon AVR-2809 Amp: Rotel 1582, Source Marantz CD5004.

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        • bigburner
          Super Senior Member
          • May 2005
          • 2649

          #5
          Originally posted by leo2498
          well I think that I could have a winner!
          Unfortunately the CP800 has no HDMI input to take advantage of hi-rez audio on Blu-ray discs and no phono input to take advantage of vinyl, but of course not everyone is into source material on Blu-ray and/or vinyl so for those people it probably is a winner.

          Nigel.

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          • Kal Rubinson
            Super Senior Member
            • Mar 2006
            • 2109

            #6
            Originally posted by bigburner
            Unfortunately the CP800 has no HDMI input to take advantage of hi-rez audio on Blu-ray discs and no phono input to take advantage of vinyl, but of course not everyone is into source material on Blu-ray and/or vinyl so for those people it probably is a winner.
            Note that use of the HT bypass on the CP800 implies there is another component that is supplying the signals being bypassed and that component is the one that requires (and likely has) HDMI inputs. The vinyl option, too, is easily accomplished with an external phono preamp.
            Kal Rubinson
            _______________________________
            "Music in the Round"
            Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
            http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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            • stuofsci02
              Super Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 1241

              #7
              I just got my new Stereophile magazine today. The CP-800 was on the cover.. Might be worth getting if you are interested..

              Cheers
              Main System:
              B&W 801D
              Emotiva USP-1 Pre-Amp
              Chord SPM-650 Stereo Amp
              Oppo BDP-105
              Squeezebox Touch


              Second System:
              B&W CM7
              Emotiva UMC-1
              Emotiva UPA-2
              Oppo BDP-83SE
              Grant Fidelity DAC-09

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              • mjb
                Super Senior Member
                • Mar 2005
                • 1483

                #8
                Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
                Note that use of the HT bypass on the CP800 implies there is another component that is supplying the signals being bypassed and that component is the one that requires (and likely has) HDMI inputs.
                Kal, is that a reference to pairing with an SSP-800, or HDMI's poor jitter (which is supposed to not be a problem with the SSP-800 anyway).
                - Mike

                Main System:
                B&W 802D, HTM2D, SCMS
                Classé SSP-800, CA-2200, CA-5100

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                • Kal Rubinson
                  Super Senior Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 2109

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mjb
                  Kal, is that a reference to pairing with an SSP-800, or HDMI's poor jitter (which is supposed to not be a problem with the SSP-800 anyway).
                  I did not mention jitter nor have it in mind. It was simply a description of the available options.
                  Kal Rubinson
                  _______________________________
                  "Music in the Round"
                  Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile
                  http://forum.stereophile.com/category/music-round

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                  • leo2498
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 370

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bigburner
                    Unfortunately the CP800 has no HDMI input to take advantage of hi-rez audio on Blu-ray discs and no phono input to take advantage of vinyl, but of course not everyone is into source material on Blu-ray and/or vinyl so for those people it probably is a winner.

                    Nigel.
                    Yes I know that nigel but I really Need is a good stereo pre amp wich it could integrate to my home theater. I want improve my Two channel listening and The CP800 could do this Job fine.
                    Leo,
                    Saludos
                    My HT: B&W 804D fronts, HTM4D center, 805D rears, Classe CA-2300 Main amp, Preamp Stereo CLASSE CP800, Preamp Multi Marantz AV8801, Parasound A31 center and Surround Amp, Source Oppo BDP-95 screen Samsung 55" UE55d8000 SVS SB12-NSD

                    Stereo: B&W 804S fronts, Pre: Denon AVR-2809 Amp: Rotel 1582, Source Marantz CD5004.

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                    • bigburner
                      Super Senior Member
                      • May 2005
                      • 2649

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
                      Note that use of the HT bypass on the CP800 implies there is another component that is supplying the signals being bypassed and that component is the one that requires (and likely has) HDMI inputs. The vinyl option, too, is easily accomplished with an external phono preamp.
                      Well Kal, if you're flush with money then that makes sense, but if I was to buy a CP800 I would want to take advantage of the high quality DAC and audio section that it has purportedly has, or have I missed something here?

                      Nigel.

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                      • londoner
                        Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 45

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bigburner
                        Well Kal, if you're flush with money then that makes sense, but if I was to buy a CP800 I would want to take advantage of the high quality DAC and audio section that it has purportedly has, or have I missed something here?

                        Nigel.
                        I use stereo digital signal from Oppo BDP-93 to listen to movies and opera on blu-ray using CP-800 DAC. HDMI to display obviously, but no need for HDMI to CP-800. The 2.1 system works very well for me.

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                        • leo2498
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 370

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bigburner
                          Well Kal, if you're flush with money then that makes sense, but if I was to buy a CP800 I would want to take advantage of the high quality DAC and audio section that it has purportedly has, or have I missed something here?

                          Nigel.
                          Yes that is the main idea about the CP800, it will be using with the pure analog audio of my oppo BDP95 and I will get the improve of usb apple friendly for my ipod. I wondering if it really have improve the sound from my ipod.

                          I would like to have the SPP800 but the combo with the CA5300 is to much for my budget and if you can add that the performance with stereo analog signal is not the best (I read this of people that have one and for that reason they bought a CP800) so that is the reason of I have a winner.
                          Leo,
                          Saludos
                          My HT: B&W 804D fronts, HTM4D center, 805D rears, Classe CA-2300 Main amp, Preamp Stereo CLASSE CP800, Preamp Multi Marantz AV8801, Parasound A31 center and Surround Amp, Source Oppo BDP-95 screen Samsung 55" UE55d8000 SVS SB12-NSD

                          Stereo: B&W 804S fronts, Pre: Denon AVR-2809 Amp: Rotel 1582, Source Marantz CD5004.

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                          • alebonau
                            Moderator Emeritus
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 992

                            #14
                            like the nad m51, perhaps the classe cp should have come with hdmi capability. would have expanded its utilisation that way.
                            "Technology is a drug. We can't get enough of it."

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                            • bigburner
                              Super Senior Member
                              • May 2005
                              • 2649

                              #15
                              Originally posted by alebonau
                              like the nad m51, perhaps the classe cp should have come with hdmi capability. would have expanded its utilisation that way.
                              Exactly, and if it had a phono input as well the CP-800 would be the perfect high quality preamp for the modern 2-channel enthusiast.

                              Nigel.

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                              • slauten
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 105

                                #16
                                Originally posted by bigburner
                                Exactly, and if it had a phono input as well the CP-800 would be the perfect high quality preamp for the modern 2-channel enthusiast.

                                Nigel.
                                I've seen on this forum where the phono input will be available for the CP-800...eventually. Others have said, no big deal, get an external unit to handle phono and then input to the CP-800. I prefer the ability to be internal to the CP-800. However...not sure when eventually will get here, nor how much to upgrade?

                                See Ya,
                                Steve

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                                • leo2498
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Feb 2012
                                  • 370

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by stuofsci02
                                  I just got my new Stereophile magazine today. The CP-800 was on the cover.. Might be worth getting if you are interested..

                                  Cheers
                                  Hi Stuart,
                                  I bought the digital option and I read the review from John Atkinson, it's a great component with a huge versatile conections, I'm just waiting that my dealer can arrange an appointment to listen it and I will go for it.
                                  Leo,
                                  Saludos
                                  My HT: B&W 804D fronts, HTM4D center, 805D rears, Classe CA-2300 Main amp, Preamp Stereo CLASSE CP800, Preamp Multi Marantz AV8801, Parasound A31 center and Surround Amp, Source Oppo BDP-95 screen Samsung 55" UE55d8000 SVS SB12-NSD

                                  Stereo: B&W 804S fronts, Pre: Denon AVR-2809 Amp: Rotel 1582, Source Marantz CD5004.

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                                  • alebonau
                                    Moderator Emeritus
                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 992

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bigburner
                                    Exactly, and if it had a phono input as well the CP-800 would be the perfect high quality preamp for the modern 2-channel enthusiast.

                                    Nigel.
                                    yes if classe dont make an external phono stage to offer. then I'd expect that they would provide a phono stage built in.
                                    "Technology is a drug. We can't get enough of it."

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                                    • stuofsci02
                                      Super Senior Member
                                      • Nov 2009
                                      • 1241

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by leo2498
                                      Hi Stuart,
                                      I bought the digital option and I read the review from John Atkinson, it's a great component with a huge versatile conections, I'm just waiting that my dealer can arrange an appointment to listen it and I will go for it.
                                      Cool!

                                      I read the article when I was on the plane home from a business trip the other day. It did indeed look good...
                                      Main System:
                                      B&W 801D
                                      Emotiva USP-1 Pre-Amp
                                      Chord SPM-650 Stereo Amp
                                      Oppo BDP-105
                                      Squeezebox Touch


                                      Second System:
                                      B&W CM7
                                      Emotiva UMC-1
                                      Emotiva UPA-2
                                      Oppo BDP-83SE
                                      Grant Fidelity DAC-09

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