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  • Cambs12
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 191

    Ca 2200 with 802d

    Hi,

    ABout 2 months ago i bought one of the last pairs of B&W 802d,which i love.Will probably buy Classe CDp202 to partner this.I will change amps also(got MF Trivista at moment).Will a 2200 be powerful enough to drive the 802d to high levels,room size 22 feet long,width 13 feet.An ex-dem unit has come up,at a good price.Or should i wait for Ca400 monos?
  • mjb
    Super Senior Member
    • Mar 2005
    • 1483

    #2
    A ca-2100 will drive the 802D's very, very nicely, infact thats what I'm using and it sounds fantastic. Having said that, a ca-2200 is on my Christmas list, as I believe 3db extra dynamic range will make a positive difference. The ca-2200 is certainly a popular amp for 802d's. I personaly think a ca-400 would be overkill.
    - Mike

    Main System:
    B&W 802D, HTM2D, SCMS
    Classé SSP-800, CA-2200, CA-5100

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    • gerardhn
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2005
      • 352

      #3
      I use this combo.

      Perfect combination.

      Cannot judge if mono's are overkill. I am sure you can find some experiences here or on B&W forum, using search function.

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      • wettou
        Ultra Senior Member
        • May 2006
        • 3389

        #4
        I use the CA-5200 and they sound great. I always wanted more power, I wouldn't mind contemplating the CT-M600



        Just the price is hard to swallow even with discounts

        I am looking to try Emotiva XPA1
        Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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        • caberxx
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 23

          #5
          Any decent quality, decently powered amp will make these speakers sound great. However, they do love power - you just can't seem to feed them too much. I had two CA-M400 mono blocks and they worked very well. So, I added two more. Now I have two of these mono blocks for each channel. Not overkill at all. The speakers love the power. The 2200 would be a great choice. It also gives you the flexibility to add another 2200 later on and use one for each side.

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          • style
            Super Senior Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 1562

            #6
            Hi,

            2x Cam400 for the L&R (400 for each chanel) or a CA2200 in biamp. :T

            2 x cam400 I think is a extra noth enough......
            in place of the new line Ctm600, I will be happy with 2 x ctm300 or a ct2300.

            in place of a emotiva I go with a Rotel D Ice ops:

            greetings style

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            • mjb
              Super Senior Member
              • Mar 2005
              • 1483

              #7
              So for the OP, there you have it....
              You'll need several kilowatt amps bridged and will still have a craving for more power :roll:
              - Mike

              Main System:
              B&W 802D, HTM2D, SCMS
              Classé SSP-800, CA-2200, CA-5100

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              • style
                Super Senior Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 1562

                #8
                So for the OP, there you have it....
                You'll need several kilowatt amps bridged and will still have a craving for more power
                I agree 100%.

                Mike with a CA2200 your 802D will be sound very good.
                You will be happy :W

                greetings
                Style

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                • mjb
                  Super Senior Member
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 1483

                  #9
                  Style, its on my list.. hopefully for Christmas ;-)
                  Let me know when you next have one!
                  - Mike

                  Main System:
                  B&W 802D, HTM2D, SCMS
                  Classé SSP-800, CA-2200, CA-5100

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                  • style
                    Super Senior Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 1562

                    #10
                    Mike read PM :W

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                    • garak
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 310

                      #11
                      I'm going to play devil's advocate. I've heard 802Ds driven by a pair of CAM-400. They sounded magnificent - the soundstage was expansive, and the imaging was so clear. My CDs sounded like SACDs.

                      I would say that if it's within your budget, go for the CAM-400s.

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                      • style
                        Super Senior Member
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 1562

                        #12
                        Hy man!!

                        I have to send my PM....
                        yesterday I have the fortune to have at my home a "guru" from Hifi cables:

                        I halve changed all the source & premapli sector cables, a coax. cable, a "power bar - well similar": my stage from the 1.5m. high is going to the 3D:
                        if you have a lot of CAM, or what do you will for ampli and the clabes are not at the level te sound still....

                        with a 6k.$$ cables I have listen my system like never and most important sound "open, sounstage without frontier" : a new preampli & a couple of Cam400 with the "old" cables dont give me the same sound.

                        welll, if your badget is a $. 100k. : go with the Cam and the new cables... :W

                        http://www.fabercables.com/uk/home.htm


                        Style

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                        • style
                          Super Senior Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 1562

                          #13
                          douple post

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                          • gerardhn
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 352

                            #14
                            Hi Cambs12,

                            Everybody makes you crazy.
                            2100 = fine, maybe what under the top
                            2200 = perfect!
                            2*400 mono= of course perfect, maybe over the top, better mate for 800.

                            price up, double up , more than triple up.

                            what can you spend?
                            all classe stuf is some time on market, many people can you make a good 2nd hand offer..... so 500 pre/2200 end should be also be possible...

                            Gerard

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                            • style
                              Super Senior Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 1562

                              #15
                              Hi,

                              personaly in place of the cp500 (out of production of end of year, not at the level for a Cam400 & 802D!!!!) I will invest my money in the cp700 (a new big brother from the cp700 come in little time :W ):
                              the cp700
                              the CA2200 (with a eye for a second CA2200 to go in bi amp.)
                              B&W802d
                              player?

                              if you go with a cp500 to buy the cam400, you don't willl be happy with th e maplification...a amplifier like the CA2200 or Cam400 NEED a GOOD preampli :T

                              the sound from your system will be to the max performance delivered from the more thinsmaller -> Your system will sound that offers the weakest link in the chain....



                              style

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                              • wettou
                                Ultra Senior Member
                                • May 2006
                                • 3389

                                #16
                                Originally posted by garak
                                I'm going to play devil's advocate. I've heard 802Ds driven by a pair of CAM-400. They sounded magnificent - the soundstage was expansive, and the imaging was so clear. My CDs sounded like SACDs.

                                I would say that if it's within your budget, go for the CAM-400s.
                                CT-M600 on it's way in the Delta skin that is my dream, but first I want my room to be measured acoustically any recommendations
                                Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                                • style
                                  Super Senior Member
                                  • Feb 2006
                                  • 1562

                                  #17
                                  Hallo,

                                  Idon't know...
                                  the ctm600 with the B&W800Di during the first test does not have much of an impression ....
                                  the customer can expect many more.


                                  Maybe a ctm300 or a ct2300 , 2 amplifier with 300watt are more as enough.

                                  the new Diamont are so not hungry as watt
                                  my 803di responds very differently(powered from a CA2200) vs. my "old" 803d powered from the CA3200...


                                  Style

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                                  • gerardhn
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Jun 2005
                                    • 352

                                    #18
                                    Style,

                                    I sold the cp 500..
                                    So can follow yr suggestion... to get cp 700...

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                                    • style
                                      Super Senior Member
                                      • Feb 2006
                                      • 1562

                                      #19
                                      Hoi gerardhn,

                                      for me is the top "solution".

                                      I have more CP700 at very grood price in the last time...
                                      with the CP700, the CA2200 and a good player (Mrantz, Esoteric, the same Classe but too a oppo 8SE for movie & music is a good setup))

                                      The oppo 83se with the analog can give you very satisfaction!

                                      I have try more & more times my Lx91 (Pioneer) and the Denon 3800 in analog:

                                      the Denon with a big suprise sound better vs. the Pioneer!!! 8O
                                      and I had always think that the Lx91 was a lot better from the Denon! ops:

                                      I speak from music stereo, not movies!!!

                                      greoten Style

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                                      • Blue-Eyes
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 162

                                        #20
                                        Why making each other crazy.......

                                        A CA2100 will do the trick. A CA2200 will do it better. The more power, the better.
                                        But look at your budget.
                                        There's always a bigger fish. Be real!
                                        ------------------------------------------------------
                                        Never drive faster than your Angel can fly!

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                                        • style
                                          Super Senior Member
                                          • Feb 2006
                                          • 1562

                                          #21
                                          hoi Blue eyes,

                                          yes of course...but you have made the same with the ssp600 & ssp800.

                                          a CP700 for €. 4500 in a second hand with a little of fortune will be possible.

                                          and Hey, that a great pre! Mooi so!!!

                                          groeten Style

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                                          • gerardhn
                                            Senior Member
                                            • Jun 2005
                                            • 352

                                            #22
                                            Style,

                                            Yes I want to spend the price you mentioned (max!) for the 700.

                                            I have also classe cdp.

                                            But if i would buy new cdp ... i would hesitate to buy such expensive cdp.

                                            We said at this forum more times... sometimes classe is overprized.

                                            (stainless steel lua with some tubes on it .... also pefect!)

                                            Groeten.

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