Upgrade path CDP502 or SSP-800

[aarsoe]

Can anyone tell me if the better upgrade path is a CDP-502 or a CDP-102 connected to a SPP-800?
To put in a different way is the DAC in the SSP-800 equal to, or better, or worse to the SSP-800 dac?

[sikoniko]

Can anyone tell me if the better upgrade path is a CDP-502 or a CDP-102 connected to a SPP-800?
To put in a different way is the DAC in the SSP-800 equal to, or better, or worse to the SSP-800 dac?

why spend all that money on a DVD player (502)? If you want a quality CDP, get the CDP-202, not the 102. Will it be better to get the 800? depends on what your priority is... if you watch movies/TV 40% or more of the time, and audio only 49%, then I say get the ssp-800. If you listen to 2 channel 75% of the time, I say get the CDP. there are differences, but they are subtle and the CDP will only show value over the SSP-800 (IMO) for someone looking for that last bit.

[aarsoe]

Sikoniko - the audio section of the 502 is identical to the 202. So they should sound identical on 2 channel material.
I would however not be purchasing the 502 for its video section, as I have external video processing that will do a better job anyway - so it is only/primarely for audio.

Oh - and I already have the CDP-102 - hence the upgrade in the question..

[sikoniko]

Sikoniko - the audio section of the 502 is identical to the 202. So they should sound identical on 2 channel material.
I would however not be purchasing the 502 for its video section, as I have external video processing that will do a better job anyway - so it is only/primarely for audio.

Oh - and I already have the CDP-102 - hence the upgrade in the question..

I know, that is why I asked why you are considering the 502 instead of the 202?

[aarsoe]

Why? Well for some funny reason I can get the 502 cheaper than the 202..

[Blue-Eyes]

If I had to choose, I choose the 202. Why? They seem to be identical. But less is more.
The less parts, the less interferentions (I dont know the english word). The less disturbtion from the digital / videoparts which the 502 had.

On the other hand, the 502 is a outstanding DVD player. Wich gives the opportunity to save a piece in your rack.

[aarsoe]

ok - but since the question was not about choosing between a 502 and a 202 could we get back on track?

[style]

the Dac from the SSp800 is one of the better available today.

sure is better from a cdp102 dac's.

from the ssp800 nd the cdp 202 I will invest my money in the cdp202:
is the top to give you a great sound in bypass modus.
Is true that is a personal taste say if you prefer the sound fron a cdp202 via coax cable or with xlrr cable in by pass.

the 502 is the same as the 202 plus a video parts...(vaste money FOR ME)

the cdp300 have the same dac fro the cdp102: FOR ME with this last the SSP800 dac's is superior and sound better.

my opinion.

Style

[Blue-Eyes]

I do have the CDP300. With analogue connection it sounds better. And yes, the DAC's in my SSP800 could be better. But there is also more than only dacs. Transport, cables, power, etc. etc.
All things together gives a sound, not only the dacs.

I can hear that the sound of the SSP800 is cleaner, but in total I like the sound of the CDP300 more. The SSP800 sticks (in my situation! ) the sound between the speakers, not a open wide image of sound.
Perhaps I should by me far more better HDMI cables.

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Edit: The sticking sound is gone . . . . . . ? ? ?? ?

[aarsoe]

Blue-eyes

Have you tried using the digital connection instead of the HDMI connection to your CDP-300? Especially the AES/EBU connection? Would be interesting to hear if you experience the same thing..

[mjb]

Perhaps I should by me far more better HDMI cables.

You can try, but I think you'll find they'll sound the same whether they cost 5 or 500 euro's

[Blue-Eyes]

Blue-eyes

Have you tried using the digital connection instead of the HDMI connection to your CDP-300? Especially the AES/EBU connection? Would be interesting to hear if you experience the same thing..

I tried also the coax connection. The SSP800 does not have a AES/EBU connection.

There was a slight difference between the coax and HDMI. But not as much as the difference with the XLR bypass connection.
And thats the question for me. Should I keep the CDP of sell it, because any transport with HDMI sounds better. And collect the money for new investments