CDT or CDP 300?

[TYE]

I will preface this with I have a Pioneer Elite Pro151FD Plasma, and am running a SSP 300 and CA5100. Primary use will be for video, say about 75% of the time, and 25% audio.

I havent stepped into the BD market yet, and with the large collection of standard dvds we have, and that my gf continues to buy, I dont plan on replacing them, so I want a player that is going to do the best it can with std dvds.

With that being said, should I go with the CDT 300, or the CDP 300? Or should I be looking at something else completely.

[sikoniko]

I will preface this with I have a Pioneer Elite Pro151FD Plasma, and am running a SSP 300 and CA5100. Primary use will be for video, say about 75% of the time, and 25% audio.

I havent stepped into the BD market yet, and with the large collection of standard dvds we have, and that my gf continues to buy, I dont plan on replacing them, so I want a player that is going to do the best it can with std dvds.

With that being said, should I go with the CDT 300, or the CDP 300? Or should I be looking at something else completely.

Are we talking strictly movie playback, or 2 channel as well?

Unfortunately, neither will be a good pick for 2 channel playback. The tough truth is that your processor won't be able to take advantage of the strengths of either solution.

If you had the SSP-600, you could use the CDP-300 with balanced cables into the analog bypass section of the SSP-600. This would allow you to benefit from the DACs on the CDP-300. Since you don't have the SSP-600, I would definately rule the CDP-300 out all together.

This leaves the CDT-300. If you had the SSP-800, you could use the digital signal into the SSP-800, and use the DACs in the SSP-800, which are arguably better than the others. The CDT-300 will be more economical than the CDP-300 for strictly movie playback, so if you are settled on a Classe solution, than this would be the obvious choice.

Then again, there are other players out there with HDMI that can upscale to 1080p/24, which the Classe players can not, and they are a lot more affordable. Buy a PS3. It is great at upscaling, and you'll be able to watch blu-rays as well!

I hope that Classe comes out with a blu-ray - Universal (DVD-A, SACD) - media server - transport that is affordable. I think the days of spending greater than $3000 on a player are over. Upscaling has been commoditized and there isn't any value in buying a player of this price when you can buy an Oppo that can scale better for under $500, and most BD players can do it as well, with the 1080p/24 capabilities.

Sorry Classe, but this is one area I can't justify your products on. I hope they have a plan to stay relevent in that particular market.

I think media servers are the future. just my opinion.

[wettou]

Upscaling has been commoditized and there isn't any value in buying a player of this price when you can buy an Oppo that can scale better for under $500, and most BD players can do it as well, with the 1080p/24 capabilities.

Sorry Classé, but this is one area I can't justify your products on. I hope they have a plan to stay relevant in that particular market. I think media servers are the future. just my opinion.

Yes, I agree Classé needs to come out with a blu ray player, I dought they will support SACD DSD multi Channel and DVD Audio. Too bad REALDVD was suspended the studios are too greedy.

I think the new Oppo BD-S83 universal blu-ray player will take the market by storm

[style]

Hallo,

I have the CA5200 and the SSP800 come soon:
as dvd player I have in head the CDP300 or CDT300 too!

well with a ssp800 with inside all waht man need for decoding (scaler,....)
the CDT300 will be enought!! with the CDP300 we have in the player and in the pre/pro a decoder, scaler --> all is double but only 1 (one) will "work"...

for the "new" blueray I will go with a Sony S550 (oppo is not so available in switzerland and tha sony are in this moment available, for the oppo = Oppo need to do research to know where they are available and when // plus price sure is in switzerland more expensive vs. USA... / the Sony s550 in switzerland is priced $. 700) or so like that... I like the Denon 3800 but
I think is too much expensive for the performance delivered...--> when th war is over and BluRay is stable in the market you can think to buy a final player ....

alternative: Esoteric dvd player...


gretings Omar

[Hberg]

CDT-300 or CDP-300 with the SSP-800?

I am curious as to what the recommendations would be for the CDT-300 or the CDP-300 with the SSP-800? For the sake of discussion consider the usage to be 50% for video and 50% to be for 2-channel audio.

[style]

Personally I think that does not change anything 2 ch. or 5.1 ....

if the ssp800 works well gets this job with the 2-channel stereo or a movie in 5.1 ...

The review on ssp800 talk of a pre/pro can provide excellent results in 2 channels as in multichannel then over the paper will be the same....(or very little difference)

@Hberg
What you think?

omar

[sikoniko]

I am curious as to what the recommendations would be for the CDT-300 or the CDP-300 with the SSP-800? For the sake of discussion consider the usage to be 50% for video and 50% to be for 2-channel audio.

There are different DACs in the CDP-300 vs the SSP-800. The SSP-800 will more resemble a CDP-502/ CDP-202 in bypass mode, with generally a slight difference.

It will come down to personal preference which anyone prefers.

[wettou]

With that being said, should I go with the CDT 300, or the CDP 300? Or should I be looking at something else completely.

Forget paying that much money for a DVD player get yourself an Oppo and save some money for a Classé Blu Ray player.

[style]

Hallo TYE,

I'm pro & contra the decision to buy a cdp or cdt300.

I like the cdp300 but is much expensive and with a cdt300 you have the same..ok, the ssp300 is not the 800 (no Hdmi for the new sound-decoding,..)

but I have blueray buyed and the quality is not so much better the DVD!!!
(price dvd disc is $15? vs. blueray $30!!) --> with a good dvdplayer you can have very good quality!

the blueray Classe player will be available in 201x??? or do you have a news?

(if the istory from blueray player Classe is the same from SSP800 you can (and I too) buy a cdp/cdt300 with out problems!!
At today I have a Denon 3930 for dvd, sony s300&PS3 for blueray anf toshiba hdex1 for HD disc--> for my the best)

omar

[sikoniko]

but I have blueray buyed and the quality is not so much better the DVD!!!
(price dvd disc is $15? vs. blueray $30!!) --> with a good dvdplayer you can have very good quality!
omar

Omar,

8O I'm not sure what you are doing, but I can't see how you come to this conclusion. HD Sourced material is night and day different from Standard Def material. Not only in video quality but in Audio quality as well!

[style]

sikoniko,

HD Sourced material is night and day different from Standard Def material

I say only that not ALWAYS is a night and day...
movie like Natural Born Killers, 28 weeks later, 28 day later, XXX,... in blueray you dont have a dramatic difference vs. standard definition in video. (50" Kuro plasma)
in audio if you dont have a decoder for the news codec well what for difference? many movie in english are available in audio with true HD,DD+,...vs. another speak "only" in dolby digital "normal 5.1"..
differnce in Bitrate in english from 25-35 english vs. 15-22 in germany,french...

Sure Casino royal, Conair,...i'm with you VERY differnce PRO HD. :T

You think: this is not a difference between standard definitions and HD material but unlike recording / track original incision - language
This is also true...and another discussion..

BUT you dont have a movie in standard def. & HD def. and you dont see so a night and day difference?

i hope you can understand the basis of the discusion...
Omar