CDP 100 quality

[gerardhn]

Hi,

I have following set up:
CDP 100, CP 500, CA 2200, 802D.

I was wondering wether the cdp is the limiting machine in this setup.
Any experiences compared with the newer machines??

Gerard

[fredBelgium]

Hi,

I have following set up:
CDP 100, CP 500, CA 2200, 802D.

I was wondering wether the cdp is the limiting machine in this setup.
Any experiences compared with the newer machines??

Gerard

Hello Gerardhn,

I think that it is an error to believe that reader CDP-100 is the weak point of this installation. This reader, after his long break-in period, is really excellent. I could make comparative between the CDP-100, CDP-202, CDP-102 and 300. In all the case the CDP-100 was on the second place of the podium. It is really a very good reader. To gain in luminosity and speed in this configuration I would make evolve/move préampli CP-500. Well before the CDP-100.

Frederic.

[gerardhn]

Hello Fred,

Thank you for feedback on my thought. !!
I think (know by comparison) that CP-500 is already good!!! WOW.

[sikoniko]

I have the CDP-100. I compared it to the ayre cx-7e cd player, and the ayre couldnt touch it. even the ayre dealer liked the CDP-100 better!

[fredBelgium]

I have the CDP-100. I compared it to the ayre cx-7e cd player, and the ayre couldnt touch it. even the ayre dealer liked the CDP-100 better!

Hello sikoniko,

I had the occasion to make a comparative test with DCS P8I. The CDP-100 with high volume was balanced much more whereas the DCS became aggressive. Tests carried out on 800D, 2 CA-2200 and CP-700.

Fred. :T

[Edgeyboy]

Hello Gerardhn,

I think that it is an error to believe that reader CDP-100 is the weak point of this installation. This reader, after his long break-in period, is really excellent. I could make comparative between the CDP-100, CDP-202, CDP-102 and 300. In all the case the CDP-100 was on the second place of the podium. It is really a very good reader. To gain in luminosity and speed in this configuration I would make evolve/move préampli CP-500. Well before the CDP-100.

Frederic.

So, do you rate the players as follows:

CDP202 / CDP100 / CDP102 / CDP300

from best to worst ?

[aapeli]

From "worst" to best...

CDP-100: 2 old dacs, but still good player.
CDP-102/300: sound is same with cds. 1 new (102) dac wich works balanced mode. 300 has 3 those dacs.
CDP-202: 2 new dacs, reference player, same as CDP-502 with cds.

[Edgeyboy]

From "worst" to best...

CDP-100: 2 old dacs, but still good player.
CDP-102/300: sound is same with cds. 1 new (102) dac wich works balanced mode. 300 has 3 those dacs.
CDP-202: 2 new dacs, reference player, same as CDP-502 with cds.

That's not what Fred thought. He placed CDP100 second, behind the CDP202. Seems a lot of people prefer the old CD transport based players to the "lower end" DVD based ones.

[ryst]

The 202 has a dvd based drive as well.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but to my knowledge Classé uses the same drive from Teac in all new CDP models.

[Edgeyboy]

Yes, but the CDP202 is not a lower end model.

I have heard from a few sources now that they rate the CDP100 highly.

[aapeli]

That was my opinion, not Freds. Tecnically CDP-102 should be better than CDP-100, and it is. I had CDP-100 almost 2 years and I also rate it high, but CDP-102 sounds better. Now nearly 500hours played with that (102) and sound is more specific than CDP-100. We have to remember that there is few years between these players, compononents, dacs etc. are updated.
I dont know but maybe you can ask from Classé, I think they can tell what has been reference to CDP-102 desing.
Very hard to believe that they have done better player few years ago than today in same pricetag... 8O

[sikoniko]

That was my opinion, not Freds. Tecnically CDP-102 should be better than CDP-100, and it is. I had CDP-100 almost 2 years and I also rate it high, but CDP-102 sounds better. Now nearly 500hours played with that (102) and sound is more specific than CDP-100. We have to remember that there is few years between these players, compononents, dacs etc. are updated.
I dont know but maybe you can ask from Classé, I think they can tell what has been reference to CDP-102 desing.
Very hard to believe that they have done better player few years ago than today in same pricetag... 8O

Out of curiosity, what was your reasoning for upgrading a 100 to a 102? I can see upgrading to a 202 as being an obvious interest, but was it something you received a great deal on?

[Edgeyboy]

That was my opinion, not Freds. Tecnically CDP-102 should be better than CDP-100, and it is. I had CDP-100 almost 2 years and I also rate it high, but CDP-102 sounds better. Now nearly 500hours played with that (102) and sound is more specific than CDP-100. We have to remember that there is few years between these players, compononents, dacs etc. are updated.
I dont know but maybe you can ask from Classé, I think they can tell what has been reference to CDP-102 desing.
Very hard to believe that they have done better player few years ago than today in same pricetag... 8O

Sure, but I can think of many manufacturer's making retrograde steps when introducing new models. I have not heard a CDP202 but I believe they are VERY good. :T

[aapeli]

Main reason was get rid of another maker dvd Of course I made test at home between 100 and 102 before I made my decision. 202 price was too much for me that time, maybe update later to this new reference model,502. Also I sold my SSP-600 because I don´t have enough space for hometheater. So, with activespeakers variable volume option is more than good. No need any preamp. I just listen cds and sometimes dvds.
Btw set looks pretty simple, just CDP-102 and 2 spekers

[Edgeyboy]

I am looking for a used CDP100 or CDP102 or CDP202 if anyone is selling ?

[gerardhn]

Hi Classe owners,

Any new experiences this topic ??
I bring it back cause my feeling is that classe cd players are overpriced compared to other brands:

Euro prices fo 102 202 resp: 4450 and 6950 euro.

I call th cd player because we dont buy them to play dvd's.

Your feelings / opinions??

Gerard

[jamesdaman]

That's the thing classe is very good stuff but here in the uk it's is very very pricey compaired
to things like meridian which can be over £1000 cheaper on most things for very simler quality.

[style]

Hi,

a cd player from 2. hand.... I don'tl like buy a player used... a power ampli is another tings....
BUT

the Cdp100 in €. are avialable for 2400.- and a new Cdp102 €. 3400.-

@gerardhn: change before the CP500 with a 700...
if you have a Ssp or others you can have the 25% from the fullprice. :W

met groeten
Style

[Blue-Eyes]

From "worst" to best...

CDP-100: 2 old dacs, but still good player.
CDP-102/300: sound is same with cds. 1 new (102) dac wich works balanced mode. 300 has 3 those dacs.
CDP-202: 2 new dacs, reference player, same as CDP-502 with cds.

I'll place the 202 above the 502. They're practial the same, but the 502 has additional DVD playing components.

Less components is better

[gerardhn]

Friends,

I have a change to upgrade from pre 500 --> 700. (Secondhand one!)
So I must do??

Your advice is more is this direction....

THX

[style]

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[style]

Hy gerardhn,

if have a good price go with it.

the cp500 go out production and a new comer (a superior level as the cp700 will be delivered in the next 10 months ca.

style

[gerardhn]

more superior? more expensive?? cannot believe...

[style]

hoi gerardhn ,

ar today the SSP800 in 2 chanel give you the same qualita of the CP700.
the cp500 is a stereo pre, not bad, bad at the level from a of others products....

Classe as high End stereo brand have annonced the coming of the new pre stereo: the Cp800/900? (the correct name I don't know) will be available in ca. 1 years but the new pre is moreas a prototyp, is a verity...
Of course if a cp700 ahve around the same price from the SSP800 the new comer will be to a pair k. euros more expensive....

groeten Style