I little confuse about the 600 and 300

[bananastylez]

Hello
I am so happy I was able to find the classe clubs forum
However I do not own a classe but are planning to purse one
I got alot of questions hoping people could help me out here

Trying to pick between the 600 and the 300
I read that the only different is the balance connection
since I just bought a arcam 139 and find out it does not have a balance connection, do you think 600 will not be any benific for me?

Another question is I read from the sticky saying that THX ultra setting are only for the 7.1?
so if I have only 5.1 system, I am unable to have THX ultra?

please forgive me for my poor English
thanks

[Kobus]

How important is 2ch music to you?.

What are your plans for the rest of your system?.

Kobus

[bananastylez]

hi
thanks for the reply
I am mainly about theater
and some music
let say 85 percent movies and 15 percent music
that is why I am so worried rather or not if the system
allowed THX ultra 2 in the 5.1 sounding sound
but I still want to start enjoying some good music too
thanks again

[sikoniko]

the ssp300 is a great pre. I ruled it out because I wanted the balanced connections for my amps, and the 2 ch. pre built into the SSP-600.

[bananastylez]

the ssp300 is a great pre. I ruled it out because I wanted the balanced connections for my amps, and the 2 ch. pre built into the SSP-600.

Hello sikoniko
does the balanced connection really improve the sound quality?
if so, wonder if it is possible to be explan :roll:
and I am unable to listen to it myself because there is no dealer that carry it around here
and also, I had order an arcam 139 and I am wondering
if ssp300 and arcam 139 and the CA5200 a good combo?
or should I get the ssp600 so that when I want do buy
a good cd player, I will have the balance connection in hand.
The reason why I bought an arcam was because I was told that arcam is the best dvd player out there and it plays really good cd.

thanks

[Kobus]

does the balanced connection really improve the sound quality?

Hotly debated, with ht, I would not worry to much, also read this:

http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=24726

if so, wonder if it is possible to be explan

see above

and I am unable to listen to it myself because there is no dealer that carry it around here

I can understand that problem, same where I am.

and also, I had order an arcam 139 and I am wondering
if ssp300 and arcam 139 and the CA5200 a good combo?

I would go for that. If your listening preferences change more towards 2ch, you can always add a cdp and a dedicated 2ch preamp.

The reason why I bought an arcam was because I was told that arcam is the best dvd player out there and it plays really good cd.

It probably is a very good (not best?) dvd and an average to good cdp.

Kobus

[sikoniko]

I would go for that. If your listening preferences change more towards 2ch, you can always add a cdp and a dedicated 2ch preamp.

or if the ssp-600 was bought up front, you wouldn't need to buy a 2 ch pre in the future.. more expensive up front, but cheaper in the long run.

[Kobus]

or if the ssp-600 was bought up front, you wouldn't need to buy a 2 ch pre in the future.. more expensive up front, but cheaper in the long run.

Yes, but if you buy a cp 500 you will have a 2ch pre "for life". SSP, not so sure with technological advances. All this obviously depends on budget.
And remember 2ch for now does not count for much with the OP.

I love my dedicated 2ch (cp500, cdp100, ca2200) and use pass-thru for ht.

Kobus

[RebelMan]

does the balanced connection really improve the sound quality?
if so, wonder if it is possible to be explan :roll:
and I am unable to listen to it myself because there is no dealer that carry it around here.

I am currently running a little AB experiment with the balanced connections of my CDP-202 and the single ended connections of my CDP-300. I initially reported an obvious disparity between the two types of connections but I may have to recant some of those remarks do to a flaw I uncovered in my testing. At this stage of testing I am unprepared to comment differently from what I posted earlier, the jury is still deliberating.

The discussions carried on in the hotly debated link that Kobus provides are inconclusive about the merits of using balanced connections because it lacks a case study. A proper evaluation of a system using balanced connections from the source to the amp and likewise with single ended connections is necessary to draw any conclusions. I am hoping to expound the study I am running at home and shed further light on the matter.

[Kobus]

I got alot of questions

I trust that all your confusion has now been cleared

Kobus

[sikoniko]

Yes, but if you buy a cp 500 you will have a 2ch pre "for life". SSP, not so sure with technological advances. All this obviously depends on budget.
And remember 2ch for now does not count for much with the OP.

I love my dedicated 2ch (cp500, cdp100, ca2200) and use pass-thru for ht.

Kobus

You know, I have been thinking a lot about this comment. Please don't take this personal, as it is just a different opinion.

At first I thought, that is a great point; however, the more I thought about it, the more I disagreed with it.

The flaw in the arguement, for my situation is the fact that you are stating CP-500. If you said CP-700 I would strongly agree. The CP-700 is a cost no option, best of the best 2 ch. preamp from classe. A definate lifer.

If you are using only 1 source, the CP-500 is basically built into the SSP-600. If you buy the CP-500 as a lifer, it will be just that. But as you replace the SSP-600 with whatever the next gen will be ever 3 - 5 years, you will most likely get the next gen 2 ch preamp for 1 source as long as classe's pre/pro model stays with the same philosophy.

[bananastylez]

I trust that all your confusion has now been cleared

Kobus

THANKS KOBUS!!
YOU REALLY HELP ALOT!
I REALLY appreciate it
I ended up buy the ssp600 and the ca5200
and you said that arcam is not the best, could you tell me
which dvd player is the best. I really want my dvd player to look like HD or better if possible
thanks for you reply!!

[Kobus]

and you said that arcam is not the best, could you tell me
which dvd player is the best

Pleasure.

I said: not best?.

My point is simply that in my opinion there is no "best" in this game, espesially with dvd players. Also, I am certain that there are some hi-end manufacturers that might be better that the arcam.

None of them will look true hd with an sd source.

Kobus

[bananastylez]

You know, I have been thinking a lot about this comment. Please don't take this personal, as it is just a different opinion.

At first I thought, that is a great point; however, the more I thought about it, the more I disagreed with it.

The flaw in the arguement, for my situation is the fact that you are stating CP-500. If you said CP-700 I would strongly agree. The CP-700 is a cost no option, best of the best 2 ch. preamp from classe. A definate lifer.

If you are using only 1 source, the CP-500 is basically built into the SSP-600. If you buy the CP-500 as a lifer, it will be just that. But as you replace the SSP-600 with whatever the next gen will be ever 3 - 5 years, you will most likely get the next gen 2 ch preamp for 1 source as long as classe's pre/pro model stays with the same philosophy.

so you mean if I got the ssp 600, there is no point to get the CP500 since it is already built in?
I got another question.
where do you buy your balance cable?
CAUSE
THEY ARE SO EXPENSIVE that it is like buying another ssp600!!
it was kinda disappointing

[RobP]

You should take a look at our forum sponsor here CATCables, Doug makes a really nice XLR Cable that will not break the bank. Check out the Kingkats Silver XLR. :T

http://www.catcables.com/

[bananastylez]

You should take a look at our forum sponsor here CATCables, Doug makes a really nice XLR Cable that will not break the bank. Check out the Kingkats Silver XLR. :T

http://www.catcables.com/

are they better built than the audioquest columbia?
thanks

[RobP]

I am not familiar with the AQ Columbia specifically, but I do know that Doug's cables were far beyond the build quality of the AQ cables that I had in my system. If you do a search on this forum for CAT Cables you will see how many people are more than satisfied with the CAT brand. For the money they cannot be beat.

matter of fact Doug is cooking up a pair of Kingcat Silvers for me as we speak, cant wait to get them.

Edit:

Here is a couple of reviews that I found.

http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=23677

http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=23275

[sikoniko]

I have some real expensive panther AQ cables, and they aren't really that impressive. They are sitting in a drawer to be honest. you're prolly better off with CAT.

[bananastylez]

alright..
thanks guy I will look into that

every since I joined this forum
I had learned so much
thank you so much