Statements build HELP

[jus24112]

Hey guys long time read I finally decided to build the statements and I have most of them assembled. I had a major brain fart and glued in the bottom brace like 2 inches lower than it needs to be! Will this effect the sound as it is just a brace and the internal volume is the same or should I try and chisel this thing out lol?


Any help would be fantastic

[Jim Holtz]

Welcome to the Statements family!

The cabinets look great and the brace is just fine. Don't worry about it.

Jim

[Heli-Tim]

Good luck along the way! I look forward to the progress updates!

[jus24112]

Awesome thanks for the replys.. I'll post some updates soon. I'll be ordering the drivers tomorrow.


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[jus24112]

Now I see that the plans don't call for the extra material to be taking off the mid tunnels for the tweeter clearance, but I do see some with and some with out? Any suggestions as mine are at this stage.


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[jus24112]

I also ordered the drivers this morning!!! Super stoked can't wait.


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[Jim Holtz]

Now I see that the plans don't call for the extra material to be taking off the mid tunnels for the tweeter clearance, but I do see some with and some with out? Any suggestions as mine are at this stage.


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I used a rasp and took about a 3/16"T x 3"W x 2"D off the top and bottom of the lower and upper mid tunnels. That's just a ball park figure but should give you plenty of room to install the ribbon.

HTH

Jim

[jus24112]

Well it was a long day of building as I decided to build two new home theater subs. Only thing left is to cut out the baffles and solder the cross overs together. Kinda nervous about the crossovers as its my first stab at doing it. Welcome to any suggestions 😀!


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[Heli-Tim]

Holy home theater batman 8O

[Steve Manning]

Wow, some nice progress going on there :T

[Jim Holtz]

Looks great! However, be careful about blocking the reflected backwave from the Statements by the subs and the screen. The subs are huge!

Jim

[jus24112]

Thanks for the comments guys but, I think I have confused my self even more and probably should of let meniscus assembly the crossovers but I wanted to try. So I am trying a dry set up as the instructions said to do and the speakers are SUPER quiet I know something is wrong but I'm not sure what. Here is a picture of the the boards so far any help would be much appreciated sorry I'm some what new to crossovers.. Or where to hook up the drivers?


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[knowledgebass]

Thanks for the comments guys but, I think I have confused my self even more and probably should of let meniscus assembly the crossovers but I wanted to try. So I am trying a dry set up as the instructions said to do and the speakers are SUPER quiet I know something is wrong but I'm not sure what. Here is a picture of the the boards so far any help would be much appreciated sorry I'm some what new to crossovers.. Or where to hook up the drivers?

If the drivers are out of the box then you can expect them to be lacking bass and probably the lower mids. Try playing something and putting your ear closer to the driver. Can you hear the highs ok?

[jus24112]

They are out of the box but it's like I have to hold the tweeter up to my ear to hear anything when I could just plug it in to my other speakers and hear it across the room. So to recap it is quiet with the woofers as well as the tweeter.


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[sdl2112]

I'm not that familiar with the Statements but here's a couple comments/questions.

The sound difference between having the x-over in place and connected direct can be significant. Especially for a metal woofer where the cone breakup is primarily what you would hear with the speaker out of the box connected directly. With it in place it would be much quieter.

It's not a good idea to connect the tweeter directly, especially a ribbon tweeter...you could cause damage.

I don't know if there are different versions of statement x-overs out there but some of the component values I see don't match those on Jim/Curt's website.

http://www.speakerdesignworks.com/statementsCrossovernets.JPG

Have you populated the other channel...if not could you post pics of the unpopulated boards.

The woofer components look correct so if the output from amplifier is the green and black wire, the woofers should be connected from black wire (common) to the speaker neg terminal and the other connection between the inductor and capacitor to the woofer pos terminals.

I know at this point of the build it can be frustrating but I'm sure Statement guys will chime in soon.

[Heli-Tim]

I don't have diagrams at the moment, but your mid cross over appears to have a 68 uF cap on it. I believe it should be 100 uF. I need to revisit revisit diagrams to help out more. I will try to figure out what your set up is, and tomorrow morning if I have access to a computer I can try to help if you are still stuck.

[Jim Holtz]

Hi Guys,

Justin is building the original Statements and matching center. We've been emailing and he's working on it. The 68 uF cap is correct.

Jim

[Heli-Tim]

OK, perfect. Look forward to more updates

[jus24112]

Ok hopefully tonight I can go back over what Jim has gracefully has sent me I think I'm going to start from scratch and De-Solder everything and start using Curts diagrams as I think they are easier to read than the Meniscus ones. I will keep you guys updated with Pics later tonight and thanks again for all the contribution and help with my build super stoked to get these up and running and hear them!!!

[Heli-Tim]

I'm stoked for you too! Lol.I have to live vicariously through other people's builds until I start my own .

[jus24112]

So is it ok to have lets say 3 wires connected to the binding posts as in one from each board positive and negative or do I need a common wire to goto that then the boards


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[jus24112]

And also is it ok to branch off another wire like this to goto the woofers in parallel as seen in my woofer board? Hopefully this is ok seen below


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[Jim Holtz]

And also is it ok to branch off another wire like this to goto the woofers in parallel as seen in my woofer board? Hopefully this is ok seen below


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Yes that is fine. BTW, the woofer circuit looks good.

Jim

[jus24112]

I think once I get down the first set of boards I'll be fine lol here is the tweeter hope it looks ok


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[jus24112]

Ok last board for the center only thing I'm confused is the the returning positive from the woofer as the negative goes between the 1ohm and the 8ohm and the the positive from the mid should get soldered here in the picture?


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[Jim Holtz]

Ok, here's what I see.

On top of the image, you have green, black and yellow wires;

Green wire: connect this to the positive binding post
black wire: Connect this to the negative binding post.
Yellow wire: Connect this to the positive terminal on the mid and finish soldering it to the connection of the resistor and black wire it's laying on.

Left side of board;

Black wire: Connect this to the negative terminal on the mid.

All done! :T It should work great now.

The ribbon circuit is perfect.

Get it assembled to you can hear what the center is supposed to sound like. Make sure you have the foam and port installed before listening. It won't sound right if you don't have it completely assembled.

Jim

[jus24112]

Thanks a ton Jim this has been a learning experience I got the center up and running it sounds amazing and now working on the statements. Here is some updates and also hopefully I did the boards right
I also ran out of wedge foam on the bottom woofer hope this will do ok?




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[Jim Holtz]

OK, from what I can see, the crossover looks good. The very bottom compartment of the cabinet doesn't need to have foam so you should be good to go.

Jim

[TEK]

And also is it ok to branch off another wire like this to goto the woofers in parallel as seen in my woofer board? Hopefully this is ok seen below

Hi

I'm a novice here and I'm sure everything is correct, but there is something I don't guite get.
I'm used to seeing crossovers where each crossover section (tweeter, mid, woofer) has two inputs (positive and negative from the speaker terminal) and two outputs (positive and negative to the speaker element).
In this picture I only see 3 connection points (4 wires but just 3 connection points).
Why is that?

[Jim Holtz]

Hi Tek,

The two wires attached to the cap are the negative leads to the woofers and the negative binding post.

Jim