Help with designing a sonosub

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  • grogamanda
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 4

    Help with designing a sonosub

    Good afternoon all,

    I am struggling manfully to work out how to build a sono sub properly.

    I want to build a Bosso Raptor System 2 or 3



    I have 2 drivers - matched :-

    Impedance: 8ohms
    Power handling: 80W RMS
    Frequency range: 25Hz - 4kHz
    Sensitivity: 92db/W @ 1m
    Voice coil resistance (Re): 7.4ohms
    Resonant frequency (fs): 25Hz
    Mechanical Q (Qms): 5.262
    Electrical Q (Qes): 0.428
    Total Q (Qts): 0.396
    Equivalent volume (Vas):194l
    Cone area: 0.0506m2

    I can build them but I am really struggling to accurately calculate the size of the tube needed and the gap needed between the two tubes as the speakers fire AT each other. I have tried sonosub calculator etc but its not designed for this application as such that I can make out.

    I will be using one amp to power both drivers 200W RMS into 8ohm

    Sonotube diameter is 450mm

    Prefer Ported as this is for a Home theatre

    Can anyone help? Please?

    I want to get this built over the weekend so that I can run a Lord of the Rings marathon next week!!

    Kind regards

    Richard
    Last edited by ThomasW; 30 August 2014, 00:58 Saturday. Reason: Link to identical post on another forum removed by modewrator
  • ThomasW
    Moderator Emeritus
    • Aug 2000
    • 10933

    #2
    Dave's (aka Bosso's) subs are not ported they're sealed. They use custom designed and built drivers specific to his cabinet design and electronics

    There are 2 drivers in each tube, they're run with a very sophisticated version of a Linkwitz Transform circuit and very high power.

    A complete set of T/S parameters is required to properly design a sub.

    IB subwoofer FAQ page


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    • grogamanda
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 4

      #3
      Originally posted by ThomasW
      Dave's (aka Bosso's) subs are not ported they're sealed. They use custom designed and built drivers specific to his cabinet design and electronics

      There are 2 drivers in each tube, they're run with a very sophisticated version of a Linkwitz Transform circuit and very high power.

      A complete set of T/S parameters is required to properly design a sub.

      It was more the similarity than the performance - I wont get that great performance out of these drivers but I love the look :-) as does the wife :-) which is a bonus.

      Just needed some help on how to deliver such a thing based on those parameters.

      Cheers

      R

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      • grogamanda
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2014
        • 4

        #4
        Originally posted by ThomasW
        Dave's (aka Bosso's) subs are not ported they're sealed. They use custom designed and built drivers specific to his cabinet design and electronics

        There are 2 drivers in each tube, they're run with a very sophisticated version of a Linkwitz Transform circuit and very high power.

        A complete set of T/S parameters is required to properly design a sub.

        It was more the similarity than the performance - I wont get that great performance out of these drivers but I love the look :-) as does the wife :-) which is a bonus.

        Just needed some help on how to deliver such a thing based on those parameters.

        Cheers

        R

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        • JonMarsh
          Mad Max Moderator
          • Aug 2000
          • 15298

          #5
          You really need to have the driver Fs, and Cms or VAS to get somewhere on calculating the right enclosure volume. The Qts on these drivers is in a somewhat higher range, indicating their most suited to a sealed system. How big depends on the cone mass and suspension compliance. You could search on Madisound for 12" woofers/subwoofers with parameters matching somewhat to the specs you have, then use those characteristics to make a SWAG for the enclosure parameters. Sealed is far less critical for size- ported you really have to have the driver characteristics nailed down to get good results. Also, with just 200W on hand for both drivers, you won't want a small box that requires a Linkwitz transform and EQ to get the LF response- you don't have the power for it.
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