Help design a 3 way crossover, Please.

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  • cesarin
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 6

    #1

    Help design a 3 way crossover, Please.

    Hello,

    I was wondering if I could please get some help designing a crossover diagram and a list of the supplies I would need to build this.
    The speakers are from what use to be a powered Mackie sr1530, but in no longer has an amp. When i got the speaker it only came with the speakers and the cab it does not have a single part from the amp, so fixing the amp is not an option.

    I found the following info not sure if it helps, the original speaker had The following:

    Crossover Points of 700Hz, 3,000Hz
    Freq. Range (-10 dB) 40Hz - 20kHz
    Freq. Response (-3dB) 45Hz - 18kHz

    I found it on the following page.



    Here are the components I have:

    Low
    15’’
    2.5” Voice Coil Diameter
    250W rms (Long term) Power Handling
    16 ohm

    ----------

    Mid
    6”
    2” Voice Coil
    60W rms (Long term) Power Handling
    8 ohm

    ----------

    High
    1”
    1” Voice Coil
    25W rms (Long term) Power Handling
    8 ohm

    Thank you!
  • cjd
    Ultra Senior Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 5570

    #2
    This data only lets us throw a textbook crossover at you, which probably won't result in anything that sounds too good.
    diVine Sound - my DIY speaker designs at diVine Audio

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    • cesarin
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 6

      #3
      So what could I do, what kind of data should I try to get? I was hoping to use the speaker as a personal monitor for a bass player. I think any result is better than dumping the speakers so i would not be extreamly picky on the results.

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      • cjd
        Ultra Senior Member
        • Dec 2004
        • 5570

        #4
        Hmm. Have you tried simply wiring up the 15" by itself?

        If we could dig up impedance graphs, we might have a slightly better shot at getting something reasonable, though probably it would be brute-force attemting to force impedance to pretend it's flat (which is what textbook crossovers assume.)
        diVine Sound - my DIY speaker designs at diVine Audio

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        • cesarin
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 6

          #5
          Ill try just the 15" to see what kind results i get thank you

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          • cjd
            Ultra Senior Member
            • Dec 2004
            • 5570

            #6
            If it sounds nasty on the top end, you could try something simple like a 1mH inductor in series. It won't do a lot at 16ohm but it should soften the top end where rough stuff would live and perhaps make it usable.

            If your bass player is looking for detail (it's there - string noise, other little nuances based on how you interact) it may not be as audible as desired without something that plays a little higher, but it may be plenty.

            To be honest though, I would *really* recommend in-ear monitors. It's just too loud, and the noise reduction you get from the good ones is worth the cost of even basic 100% custom IEM's (Ultimate Ear being my reference - my next set will be customs, and I use them just for the daily commute on the train.)
            diVine Sound - my DIY speaker designs at diVine Audio

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            • cesarin
              Junior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 6

              #7
              Cool i will try that do you have a diagram of how the 1mh inductor would look like in series. In ear is definitly in our future plans

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              • cesarin
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 6

                #8
                Originally posted by cjd
                If we could dig up impedance graphs, we might have a slightly better shot at getting something reasonable
                Hi I was wondering if the praphs that I found on the following link would help:



                Thank you!

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                • cjd
                  Ultra Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 5570

                  #9
                  Unfortunately, there's only summed response data there.
                  diVine Sound - my DIY speaker designs at diVine Audio

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                  • cesarin
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 6

                    #10
                    oh ok, I guess Ill stick to plan B with the 1mH inductor in series. thank you again

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