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  • jmik26
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 65

    Need Help with a Curved Box Tower Design

    I am in the planning stages of the Modula MTM or the Nat P's. I want to build curved cabinets but wanted to see if anybody could verify the volume to ensure I am on the right track. Below is what I got laying things out on Bobcad. Maybe a bit unorthodox but its the only way I new to get my point across. I basically made a 7x11 rectangle then added points from there. I extruded the design 31" high and measured to calculate 2503.72 (cubic inches??) and divided by 1728 to get 1.4489 cubic feet? I understand it doesn't take into consideration speakers, bracing, etc... Thanks in advance... Jeff
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  • snmhanson
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 194

    #2
    I'd be happy to give it a whack. Just to confirm, inside dimensions are 7" wide at front, 5" wide at back and 8" wide at the wide point of the speaker? Also, looks like the 5.5" measurement the mid-point making the speaker 11" deep, right? Would you use the same 22" height as in the design? Did you use a specific radius for the curve? If so, let me know what it is and whether it is the radius for the outside or the curve or the inside of the curve? If you can get that info I could draw it up on Autocad and get a pretty accurate measurement for you.

    Matt

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    • snmhanson
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 194

      #3
      Deleted and reposted below...

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      • jmik26
        Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 65

        #4
        Sweet, that would be awesome....

        7" Wide front = correct
        5" Wide back = correct
        8" wide half way through cabinet = correct
        11" deep = correct

        Height = 31"
        Radius = 15.807" from the inside.

        Thanks, Jeff

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        • jmik26
          Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 65

          #5
          Originally posted by snmhanson
          I had Autocad open so I made a quick drawing using the parameters in the post before and came up with an 11" internal radius. Volume came out to be 1.13 cubic feet or 31.97 liters. Just slightly larger than the design.

          Hope this helps.

          Matt
          Was that with 22" height or 31"?

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          • jmik26
            Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 65

            #6
            This is what I came up with.
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            • snmhanson
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 194

              #7
              I reran the calcs - I was using 22" as an internal measurement before (and I had made one other error which I realized about ten seconds after posting). Anyway, with 31" as the internal height the results I come up with are 1.45 SF and 40.98 liters. If 31" is outside height dimension and 30.5 is inside I come up with 1.42 and 40.32.

              Matt

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              • jmik26
                Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 65

                #8
                Awesome, so it seems I'm on the right track 8) ... Thanks for your help.... Jeff

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                • nikbrewer
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 12

                  #9
                  what are your plans on skinning them? I have used 1/2" or 3/4" kerfed mdf, with a later of 1/8" masonite to smooth it out

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                  • jmik26
                    Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 65

                    #10
                    I scrapped the curved cabinets. I tried kerfing 1/2 mdf with little success. If I had two extra people helping me or built some pretty serious jigs It would have worked but I ran out of patients. There is always next build...

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                    • Jim85IROC
                      Member
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 99

                      #11
                      There's always the option of laminating thinner pieces of MDF. For curved cabinets, I'd rather do 3-4 layers of 1/4" MDF instead of kerf cutting thicker stuff. It should be much easier, plus stronger.

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                      • jmik26
                        Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 65

                        #12
                        I would agree on the using skinner stock instead of kerfs. I was kerfing almost 3/4 of the way through the 1/2" MDF and it was still hard to bend, any more then that I might as well glued strips, lol. I even though about 4 or 5 layers of luan.

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                        • nikbrewer
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 12

                          #13
                          they make a bending plywood. I used the 3/8" thick, 2 layers, lots of glue between,then skin with masonite. I have had fine luck with kerfing 3/4" even. How tight was the radius?

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                          • jmik26
                            Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 65

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nikbrewer
                            they make a bending plywood. I used the 3/8" thick, 2 layers, lots of glue between,then skin with masonite. I have had fine luck with kerfing 3/4" even. How tight was the radius?
                            34.289" radius
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                            • john trials
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 449

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jmik26
                              I would agree on the using skinner stock instead of kerfs. I was kerfing almost 3/4 of the way through the 1/2" MDF and it was still hard to bend, any more then that I might as well glued strips, lol. I even though about 4 or 5 layers of luan.
                              I've never tried bending MDF, but it appears you have to cut more than 3/4 of the way through (from the photos in this link). Here is a cool thread about bending MDF: http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...highlight=kerf
                              Statements: "They usually kill the desire to build anything else."

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                              • jmik26
                                Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 65

                                #16
                                Originally posted by john trials
                                Here is a cool thread about bending MDF: http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...highlight=kerf
                                Cool indeed, thanks... Jeff

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