Tang Band W4-1658SB distortion measurements

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  • fjhuerta
    Super Senior Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 1140

    Tang Band W4-1658SB distortion measurements

    I wonder - did I do them right?

    I measured them in-baffle. The measurements are for two woofers in series, at 50 cms away, and SPLs of around 97 dBs.

    The woofers are in-cabinet.

    I don't know why the sweep stopped there. Supposedly, I configured it from 200~20 KHz.

    Still, I assume I could use this woofer very high up, if I'm reading the graph correctly.

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    Javier Huerta
  • fjhuerta
    Super Senior Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 1140

    #2
    I took two more today, to see if I could increase the measurement range. I also took them on woofer axis, instead of on the design axis (the tweeter).





    I see some definite trends, although my noise floor isn't as low as I'd like it to be (you can see I took these measurements in the morning, with more ambient noise everywhere). Still - can I conclude the woofers are extremely clean up, and so, I can use them as high as I want to? Or, am I missing something?
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    • pedroskova
      Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 38

      #3
      I've never used Soundeasy, but it would appear that the program only "believes" that it can record up to ~10k - 12k, depending which graph you're talking about. Maybe you could check the sound card setup? It looks like a 22k - 25kHz sampling rate. With a 44kHz sampling rate, the second harmonic would reach 10kHz.

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      • fjhuerta
        Super Senior Member
        • Jun 2006
        • 1140

        #4
        I don't know why, but it all looks too clean to me to be true...
        Javier Huerta

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        • Jed
          Ultra Senior Member
          • Apr 2005
          • 3621

          #5
          Something looks off with the fundamental SPL. However, maybe others that use Soundeasy could chime in. I don't use that software, personally.

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          • jkrutke
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 590

            #6
            I have to agree, something looks wrong with your fundamental, and the harmonics floor is abnormally high. It almost looks like there's a massive 15-20 dB droop in the top end. Can you post a response curve?

            You might be clipping a preamp either in your sound card or mic pre, it might pay to mess with the levels a bit. Try a lower level semi-near field (10 cm) of an unfiltered known driver to see what you get.
            Zaph|Audio

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            • fjhuerta
              Super Senior Member
              • Jun 2006
              • 1140

              #7
              Here it is. 10 milliseconds, speaker lifted around 1.7 meters off the ground, taken at 1 meter, unsmoothed and unfiltered. No floor or wall bounce (am I right in assuming the graph is correct right to 100 Hz)?

              There is a drop of around 10 dB, indeed on the top end. That's the natural FR of the driver.

              When I looked (closely) at T-B's published specs, the drop is there, too. It's just not noticeable because of the scale they chose.

              I know the measurements can't be right. I'll try to take some more tonight... thanks for your help!

              Javier Huerta

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              • fjhuerta
                Super Senior Member
                • Jun 2006
                • 1140

                #8
                I assume something is wrong with my measurement setup. This is the best I can get, and measurements won't go any higher.

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                • Notorious_AK
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 28

                  #9
                  I get similar results as first three graphs when I forget to turn mic preamp on. there may be a problem with your preamp. is phantom power on?

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                  • fjhuerta
                    Super Senior Member
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 1140

                    #10
                    Yeah, if phantom power was off, I wouldn't be able to get a reading...

                    I think I'll try ARTA
                    Javier Huerta

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