What do you guys prefer ? Do you prefer a single mid in a threeway or two midwoofers in a MTM.
Single mid in a threeway or Two midwoofers in a MTM
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Apart from the usual TM or MTM decision criteria that apply, I might MTM to match voltage sensitivity between mid and bass sections, or acoustic sensitivity depending on enclosure loading (or none) in the case of an open baffle midrange. Take a look at Jed's Tombstone build thread for the latter.
If you have a sufficiently sensitive woofer (say more than 4dB sensitive than the midrange) assuming you allow 4dB for baffle step compensation in a real room (which will offer the other 2dB in room gain), then you will either need to pad down your woofer, or get a more sensitive midrange, or go MTM to compensate.
Of course a parallel MTM with W might present a too low impedance, especially if higher order electrical slopes at mid / bass Fc.
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Obviously 2 mids are better than one.- Bottom
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I don't think that's what he's asking.
He's asking whats better... WMT or MTM. I'd say the 3 way will sound better given the same quality drivers, but there is something nice about 2-ways if you can get a quality midwoofer like a scanspeak with the cost savings of going with a simpler design.
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WMT - better extension, possibly larger box, harder design, more expensive passive crossover, less sensitive
Both designs have their pluses and minuses. I think it comes down to how good the drivers and design are, more than whether a speaker is a WMT or MTM. One design does not beat the other hands down.
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Originally posted by JedI don't think that's what he's asking.
He's asking whats better... WMT or MTM. I'd say the 3 way will sound better given the same quality drivers, but there is something nice about 2-ways if you can get a quality midwoofer like a scanspeak with the cost savings of going with a simpler design.
Jed
I agree with Dave, it isn't a simple question and will depend more on what people's goals and experiences are. I would guess the general public who is impressed by Bose, hot tweeters, and subwoofers turned up to 11 would prefer the more bass in a 3-way. But, I think the HIFI crowd who is more into detail would go for the 2-way with two mids. Its just too generic of a question to give a short answer to.- Bottom
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I realize kgveteran did ask about a TMM so I hope it is OK to bring up this approach. I don't have much experience but from what I have read I think it offers the most potential for a superb speaker for a designer.
A TMM does not have the nulls of an MTM (as long as you're not nearfield) and a TMM should not have any integration issues often found between the M and W. The 3-ways strength is that it should play the lowest but if we are talking strictly musical reproduction, I think the benefits of the smooth integration of a TMM will ultimately bring more enjoyment to the music.
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Hey Guys,
Thanx for the responses. It really is a, "Which do you like better", with a little,"Here's the reason why" tossed in.
I run three WTMW centers as mains.I'm just wondering if a single mid can handle the demands of HT over a similiarly well designed MTM. You guys who design know much better than me.
I will say at this time I'm very happy with my mains, just a little food for thought.
KgHere is my LCR "Trio". Way to go guys !- Bottom
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Originally posted by tf1216A TMM does not have the nulls of an MTM (as long as you're not nearfield) and a TMM should not have any integration issues often found between the M and W.
Am I way off?- Bottom
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Originally posted by kgveteranI'm just wondering if a single mid can handle the demands of HT over a similiarly well designed MTM. You guys who design know much better than me.
Kg
I've heard Thomas say that most music lives in the midrange and he prefers 2 over 1. This was the biggest factor pushing me towards the design found in the Khans.
Jim Holtz, I beleive, I once saw him say that the differences between his Nat P's and his RS TMWW tower (similar to yours) were small.
I know that you would be very happy with an upgrade to something like the Khanspires. I can't guarantee that you would be if you stepped down to a 2-way MTM.- Bottom
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