For people that design Crossovers! Impedance question.

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  • chasw98
    Super Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 1360

    For people that design Crossovers! Impedance question.

    I am curious as to what are some tricks, techniques, methods, etc. to designing a crossover and then finding out it has a nominal 2 ohm impedance. How would you get the impedance up into a higher range? I have a mid driver with a 5.8 ohm DC resistance and a tweeter with a nominal 3.5 ohm DC resistance. After constructing a 'classic' 2nd order electrical xover at 2,000 Hz the impedance chart goes a little too low, I believe.

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    Ignore anything below 250 Hz because I did not measure that. This is a generic question. The crossover is just an inductor in series and capacitor in parallel for the mid and the reverse for the hi. I really hope there is a simple answer and I have just been dumb and overlooked it. Thanks.

    Chuck
    Last edited by theSven; 26 June 2023, 22:58 Monday. Reason: Update image location
  • Dennis H
    Ultra Senior Member
    • Aug 2002
    • 3798

    #2
    I'm a rookie with LspCAD but I think the optimizer has a tab to not let the impedance go below X ohms.

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    • chrisn
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 166

      #3
      Did you pad the tweeter down at all?

      I'm but a mere novice, so heed others advice before mine. Impedance phase looks weird (to me).

      good luck

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      • chasw98
        Super Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 1360

        #4
        Originally posted by chrisn
        Did you pad the tweeter down at all?

        I'm but a mere novice, so heed others advice before mine. Impedance phase looks weird (to me).

        good luck
        I have tried it padded (resistor series, then parallel) and unpadded. I am but a mere novice also. That is why I am asking fro help. It might even be as simple as the polarity of the driver. I don't know.

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        • chrisn
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 166

          #5
          Could you post what drivers you are using and the crossover values? Did you use an impedance jig to measure? If so, is it calibrated (with the speakers disconnected) and the resistor value correct? I use arta for impedance measurments and that is the procedure I use.

          What effect did padding the tweeter have on the impedance curve?

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          • Curt C
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2005
            • 791

            #6
            Did you measure just the tweeter and its network separately? You may just have a 4 ohm tweeter. Generally, tweeters require attenuation to match up with the rest of the drivers, and a couple of ohms in series will get you back on the good side of 4 ohms.

            I'd need to see more information to make any further determination.

            C
            Curt's Speaker Design Works

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            • Amphiprion
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 886

              #7
              Need schematic...

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              • chasw98
                Super Senior Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 1360

                #8
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                • chasw98
                  Super Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 1360

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Curt C
                  Did you measure just the tweeter and its network separately? You may just have a 4 ohm tweeter. Generally, tweeters require attenuation to match up with the rest of the drivers, and a couple of ohms in series will get you back on the good side of 4 ohms.

                  I'd need to see more information to make any further determination.

                  C
                  Thank you Curt! Getting rid of the pad (R1, R2) and putting a 3 ohm resistor in series at the beginning of the hi portion has raised the impedance above 5 ohms (on paper at least).

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