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  • megamuel
    Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 56

    1" roundover

    Could someone please show me a bit on this website:

    Trend are the leading brand of Routers, Cutters, Jigs & Accessories, Power Tool Accessories, Safety/PPE, Tool Storage, Abrasives & CNC Machines sold through a network of stockists in the United Kingdom, Ireland, USA & Canada. Our products are also available online form e-commerce partners in Europe, New Zealand, Australia and many more worldwide


    or this one:

    Infinity Tools is a worldwide distributor of high quality router bits and other wood cutting tools for the professional as well as the weekend woodworker.


    ....that will give me a 1" roundover?! I know this seems like a stupid question but I am very confused!!! I'll be using my Dad's Trend t4 router which has 1/4" shank. Thanks!

    Sam.
  • mpotoka
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 203

    #2
    You probably won't be able to get a 1" roundover without a 1/2" shank

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    • Dennis H
      Ultra Senior Member
      • Aug 2002
      • 3798

      #3
      Nobody (I think) makes a roundover bit bigger than 1/2" with a 1/4" shank. You need a beefy router with a 1/2" collet to do a 1" roundover. The bit will be 2 1/2" in diameter and very heavy. A 1/4" shank would most likely break, sending a big chunk of 20,000 RPM steel flying your direction... definitely hazardous to your health.

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      • megamuel
        Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 56

        #4
        Ahh I see, I didn't realise... Thats the nice big roundover out of the question then!

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        • JonP
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 692

          #5
          Originally posted by megamuel
          Ahh I see, I didn't realise... Thats the nice big roundover out of the question then!
          They are available up to 1.5"... pricey, and need that 1/2" collet, of course.
          Probably need over 2hp, and with any large bit, need to have speed control to slow down the router to a safe speed. You DON'T want to run something like that at 24,000 rpm! Even my 3/4" roundover is reccomended to be run down around 12,000-14,000.

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          • ---k---
            Ultra Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 5204

            #6
            Even the cheapest routers over here come with 1/2" collets these days. Maybe it is time to upgrade your router?
            - Ryan

            CJD Ochocinco! ND140/BC25SC06 MTM & TM
            CJD Khanspires - A Dayton RS28/RS150/RS225 WMTMW
            CJD Khancenter - A Dayton RS28/RS150/RS180 WTMW Center

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            • Bent
              Super Senior Member
              • Sep 2003
              • 1570

              #7
              my P.O.S. Skill router with the "auto eccentric hole option" has a 1/2 inch collet with a 1/4" collet insert

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              • megamuel
                Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 56

                #8
                My Dad only just bought it, just reading up on it now and it says its a light duty router so that would explain it. I don't have a clue about routers (obviously)! I'll have to see if I can borrow one! Thanks for the quick answers guys

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                • BobEllis
                  Super Senior Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 1609

                  #9
                  Why mess with puny 1" roundovers? Check out these ready made 2" to 4" quarter rounds http://www.aitwood.com/StoreFront.As...arter%20Rounds

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                  • ---k---
                    Ultra Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 5204

                    #10
                    Bob makes a good point. You can leave a notch in the corner, then fill it with quarter round.
                    - Ryan

                    CJD Ochocinco! ND140/BC25SC06 MTM & TM
                    CJD Khanspires - A Dayton RS28/RS150/RS225 WMTMW
                    CJD Khancenter - A Dayton RS28/RS150/RS180 WTMW Center

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                    • relder
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 25

                      #11
                      A 1/2" collet isn't a guarantee you can swing a bit that big either. My dewalt plunge can't (I learn after I buy the bit) the diameter of hole in the base isn't that big. So measure before you buy.

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                      • ---k---
                        Ultra Senior Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 5204

                        #12
                        Ahhhh, the hole in the plastic baseplate isn't a limiting factor. Remove the baseplate and make a new larger baseplate out of MDF or lexan. I had to do this also with my Hitachi. It worked well. I made my new baseplate about 12" long and put a handle on to make it easier to work with and more stable on the work piece. It was ugly, but took about ten minutes to put together.
                        - Ryan

                        CJD Ochocinco! ND140/BC25SC06 MTM & TM
                        CJD Khanspires - A Dayton RS28/RS150/RS225 WMTMW
                        CJD Khancenter - A Dayton RS28/RS150/RS180 WTMW Center

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                        • ---k---
                          Ultra Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 5204

                          #13
                          Photos of my baseplate, and ironicly a 1" bit.

                          Last edited by ---k---; 25 March 2008, 19:13 Tuesday.
                          - Ryan

                          CJD Ochocinco! ND140/BC25SC06 MTM & TM
                          CJD Khanspires - A Dayton RS28/RS150/RS225 WMTMW
                          CJD Khancenter - A Dayton RS28/RS150/RS180 WTMW Center

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                          • relder
                            Junior Member
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 25

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ---k---
                            Ahhhh, the hole in the plastic baseplate isn't a limiting factor. Remove the baseplate and make a new larger baseplate out of MDF or lexan.
                            It is if it's aluminum and integral to the router. See picture: Amazon link

                            YMMV

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                            • Brian Bunge
                              Super Senior Member
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 1389

                              #15
                              I love my DW621 (now that my uncle referbished it for me) but yeah, you aren't going to get a big bit like that in there. That's why I have a Porter Cable router that sits in the router table!

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                              • Hdale85
                                Moderator Emeritus
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 16073

                                #16
                                I have a Hitachi MKV12 (I think this is the model) and it does 1/4" and 1/2" Shank...it's a beast

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                                • Brian Bunge
                                  Super Senior Member
                                  • Nov 2001
                                  • 1389

                                  #17
                                  Oh, mine has both 1/4" and 1/2" collets, it's just that a bit with that kind of diameter isn't going to fit in this particular DeWalt. It will easily fit in the DW618 that I have or the Porter Cable.

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                                  • JoshK
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Mar 2005
                                    • 748

                                    #18
                                    I have a 1.25" roundover bit. Its huge. Its intimidating, its a beast. I plan to use it with my table saw router table insert. I don't want to hand hold the router when using this bit. Something else to consider.

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                                    • ---k---
                                      Ultra Senior Member
                                      • Nov 2005
                                      • 5204

                                      #19
                                      yeah, ymmv with different routers.

                                      Josh, you sissy! I did a 1 1/4" roundover with a hand-held. I swore afterwards I would never do it again, but I did it. :P
                                      - Ryan

                                      CJD Ochocinco! ND140/BC25SC06 MTM & TM
                                      CJD Khanspires - A Dayton RS28/RS150/RS225 WMTMW
                                      CJD Khancenter - A Dayton RS28/RS150/RS180 WTMW Center

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                                      • BobEllis
                                        Super Senior Member
                                        • Dec 2005
                                        • 1609

                                        #20
                                        There's a reason that "smaller" e.g 2 HP routers have smaller holes in the baseplate. That 3" diameter 1.25" roundover bit is spinning a bunch of mass and a smaller router has smaller bearings and internal shaft. I got a lot of vibration and a rough cut with a 2HP Bosch router (very good within its limits) that I slowed down with my variac. I thought it was the cheap bit until I put it in my Hitachi MV12.

                                        The Hitachi MV12 will swing a 3.25-3.5" bit with a standard baseplate. Yep, Dougie, it is a beast and I love it!

                                        BTW, I always keep the cabinet between me and a big bit. It probably wouldn't stop it if it comes apart, but at least it will slow it down a bit.

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