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  • servicetech
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 209

    Series Crossovers

    What do you guys think about them?
    I tried a simple 6db/octave on my last project and it turned out pretty well.
  • chrisn
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 166

    #2
    I used one on some HIVi driers I used in an MTM I liked it a little better than the parallel XO's I had used on the same drivers and cabinet. I couldn't pin-point why, though. It wasn't a 1st order, I think it was 2nd order LP and 3rd HP electrical, LR4 acoustic. I spent some time matching each components value and making everything neat and tidy

    I'm just a novice, hopefully someone more knowledgable than I will share
    Last edited by chrisn; 23 February 2008, 21:37 Saturday. Reason: typo

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    • cjd
      Ultra Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 5570

      #3
      I think far better of series crossovers than I do any drivers "capable" of 6db/octave. There are interesting challenges with them that are different from the classic parallel crossover, particularly (I think) about what is effectively insertion loss. Not sure.

      Jon doesn't seem to pay much attention to series or parallel, some of his are some sort of hybrid.

      I've done some series alternatives and always end up with lower sensitivity, which backs the insertion loss thoughts. They're probably best suited to lower order slopes, but drivers capable that are about nonexistent unless you accept quite a bit of distortion in the driver(s).

      C
      diVine Sound - my DIY speaker designs at diVine Audio

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      • Rolex
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2005
        • 386

        #4
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        • ThomasW
          Moderator Emeritus
          • Aug 2000
          • 10933

          #5
          Originally posted by cjd
          Jon doesn't seem to pay much attention to series or parallel, some of his are some sort of hybrid
          Jon doesn't think much of pure series crossovers...his hybrids are used primarily when the idea is to keep costs down.

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          • Dennis H
            Ultra Senior Member
            • Aug 2002
            • 3798

            #6
            John Kreskovsky did some sims and measurements and found no difference between series and parallel networks as long as the net transfer function to the driver is the same. That's the big if of course.

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            • IllNastyImpreza
              Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 77

              #7
              a series crossover ?? you mean like an inline RCA crossover ??

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              • cjd
                Ultra Senior Member
                • Dec 2004
                • 5570

                #8
                google is your friend.

                traditional crossovers are separate for each driver and wired up in parallel.

                A series crossover is one homogenous mass of confusion (for most folks) and all the drivers in a system are wired in series, with all the crossover components interconnected in some way.

                C
                diVine Sound - my DIY speaker designs at diVine Audio

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                • IllNastyImpreza
                  Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 77

                  #9
                  woa crazzy...

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                  • joetama
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2006
                    • 786

                    #10
                    I've never built one.

                    I've played with them on the computer. They seem interesting, but I don't really see a strong reason to build one.
                    -Joe

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                    • Kal Rubinson
                      Super Senior Member
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 2109

                      #11
                      Originally posted by joetama
                      I've played with them on the computer. They seem interesting, but I don't really see a strong reason to build one.
                      I can think of one reason: It is impossible to bi-wire them. :rofl:

                      Kal
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                      • joetama
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2006
                        • 786

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kal Rubinson
                        I can think of one reason: It is impossible to bi-wire them. :rofl:

                        Kal
                        :T

                        Very true... Very true...
                        -Joe

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