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  • littlesaint
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
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    Anyone use Linux

    Does anyone use Linux for design and testing?

    I have a Thinkpad T60p with Linux (Ubuntu) as the OS. I have Windows installed in a VM, but I rarely use it.

    Also, my Thinkpad doesn't have FireWire. So, I'd be looking for hardware and software that works with USB 2.0 and Linux or Windows running in a VM. Simple right? 8O

    I also have access to my wife's MacBook if that's a better option.
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  • Wilk
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 104

    #2
    I am a big Linux fan, Ubuntu is a great OS. As far as testing software though, there is little to none. I gave thought to trying Mac on Linux to let me run the fuzzmeasure program that Jon Marsh is using, but never got around to it. You may just want to trade your wife for the mac.

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    • cjd
      Ultra Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 5570

      #3
      I mentioned some software over in the DA Khanspire thread that I've been trying to get working on Ubuntu. Looks like it should do quite a bit, and do it well, if I can get all the dependencies straightened out.
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      • JonMarsh
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        • Aug 2000
        • 15290

        #4
        If you have access to a MacBook, (I have one, too), you might want to look at FuzzMeasure 2, it's discussed a bit in the Speaker Camp Thread. I run LspCAD in an XP partition on the MacBook, too, but use Fuzzmeasure, with an external FireWire preamp, in the Mac Partition.



        It's pretty easy to use, and easy to make plots of summed or averaged measurements. It uses a swept sine chirp for measurement, like Praxis. It converts to an MLS equivalent for windowing, and shows the window and corresponding frequency response at the same time. Very easy to use (it's on a Mac, after all!). Won an Apple design award.
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        • littlesaint
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          • Jul 2007
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          #5
          Originally posted by cjd
          I mentioned some software over in the DA Khanspire thread that I've been trying to get working on Ubuntu. Looks like it should do quite a bit, and do it well, if I can get all the dependencies straightened out.
          I'll take a look. Thanks. Is there recommended recording hardware? I've heard m-audio USB products work well with linux.
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          • cjd
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            • Dec 2004
            • 5570

            #6
            I use an internal card on a desktop system, but it's an M-Audio. I've had good luck with them under linux, yes. Ubuntu's forums are pretty good too, so if you've the patience, I'm sure in the end it'll happen.

            let me know what works as far as getting the software going, if you succeed in that.

            I should also say, i've had no trouble using Speaker Workshop under WINE for modeling - just haven't tried using it to measure yet, but I'll do that after I have it working in Windows on that computer.

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            • littlesaint
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              • Jul 2007
              • 823

              #7
              Originally posted by JonMarsh
              If you have access to a MacBook, (I have one, too), you might want to look at FuzzMeasure 2, it's discussed a bit in the Speaker Camp Thread. I run LspCAD in an XP partition on the MacBook, too, but use Fuzzmeasure, with an external FireWire preamp, in the Mac Partition.

              ...

              It's pretty easy to use, and easy to make plots of summed or averaged measurements. It uses a swept sine chirp for measurement, like Praxis. It converts to an MLS equivalent for windowing, and shows the window and corresponding frequency response at the same time. Very easy to use (it's on a Mac, after all!). Won an Apple design award.
              I've always been a "Mac guy" first, so I may just have to try it. Nice price too. Is that the standard or pro version of LspCAD you use?
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              • JonMarsh
                Mad Max Moderator
                • Aug 2000
                • 15290

                #8
                I use the Pro version, though obviously I'm not! :W It has some useful features, but you can do an awful lot with the "standard", and I'm sure for most folks it's a better value. I'm used to $3K to 10K for CAD software at work, so LspCAD Pro's price isn't that scary.
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                • littlesaint
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 823

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cjd
                  I use an internal card on a desktop system, but it's an M-Audio. I've had good luck with them under linux, yes. Ubuntu's forums are pretty good too, so if you've the patience, I'm sure in the end it'll happen.

                  let me know what works as far as getting the software going, if you succeed in that.

                  I should also say, i've had no trouble using Speaker Workshop under WINE for modeling - just haven't tried using it to measure yet, but I'll do that after I have it working in Windows on that computer.

                  C
                  I was able to get qloud-22 to compile and run, but I couldn't tell you if it "works" because I don't have a recording device. Plus, you have to get JACK (JACK Audio Connection Kit) working with the hardware before qloud can "talk" to it. Looks like I'll be making a trip to Guitar Center tomorrow.
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                  • cjd
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                    • Dec 2004
                    • 5570

                    #10
                    interesting.

                    I can't get it to compile completely. Grrr.
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                    • littlesaint
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 823

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cjd
                      interesting.

                      I can't get it to compile completely. Grrr.
                      If I can remember what I did, I'll put together a how-to.
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                      • Jed
                        Ultra Senior Member
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 3621

                        #12
                        Wish LSPCAd would work in OSX. Just bought a MacBook. I can run dual platforms, but would like to never have to resort to Vista in the future.

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                        • Johnloudb
                          Super Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 1877

                          #13
                          Mataa

                          Didn't know there were any Mac fans in the electronics/engineering community. I'm about to try out MATAA (Matlab/Octave based audio analysis) featured in audioXpress on my Mac. Has anyone tried this? Octave is free and OSX & Linux compatible. No sound support for Linux yet, though.

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                          • dwk
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 251

                            #14
                            Interesting stuff. I've mostly been a Linux guy in the past, having spent a ton of time with BruteFIR and related packages for digital xovers. I've been using Windows for the past while, though, since my technical/experimenting time has been pretty much non existant.

                            Linux has some pretty cool audio tools, but measurement tools were always the problem. MATAA looks pretty like an interesting development, though. If it uses PortAudio as claimed, porting to Linux shouldn't be too big a problem. Given that my Emu 1820M is now at least partially supported by the latest ALSA releases, it might be time to take another look.

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                            • Johnloudb
                              Super Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 1877

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dwk
                              Interesting stuff. I've mostly been a Linux guy in the past, having spent a ton of time with BruteFIR and related packages for digital xovers. I've been using Windows for the past while, though, since my technical/experimenting time has been pretty much non existant.

                              Linux has some pretty cool audio tools, but measurement tools were always the problem. MATAA looks pretty like an interesting development, though. If it uses PortAudio as claimed, porting to Linux shouldn't be too big a problem. Given that my Emu 1820M is now at least partially supported by the latest ALSA releases, it might be time to take another look.
                              Sounds good. You may just be the person to port MATAA to Linux. :T
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                              • zzzz
                                Member
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 78

                                #16
                                Unibox should work using open office.

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                                • ThomasW
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                                  • Aug 2000
                                  • 10933

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by zzzz
                                  Unibox should work using open office.
                                  It doesn't since Unibox uses macros

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                                  • cjd
                                    Ultra Senior Member
                                    • Dec 2004
                                    • 5570

                                    #18
                                    Not just the macros causing problems, but the VB. Unibux might just be a macro dependency.

                                    It would be nice to see the FRD Consortium time and effort put into a platform that's more stable and more compatible though. Last time I spoke to Dan Cyr he was working on Linux but I haven't seen that effort bear fruit.
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