Changing dipole baffle from 12" to 14"-Consequences?

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  • Eric H
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 15

    Changing dipole baffle from 12" to 14"-Consequences?

    I am getting ready to assemble a pair of Adire DDR dipole kits that I've had laying around. I also will be building two bass bins that are 14" wide, and the DDR's will be on top. The DDR's are supposed to be 12" wide. What would the sonic implications be to my going with 14" baffles to match the bass bins?

    Thanks, Eric.
  • ThomasW
    Moderator Emeritus
    • Aug 2000
    • 10933

    #2
    Doing that lowers the baffle reinforcement frequency. I don't imagine it will make much difference in the overall performance

    IB subwoofer FAQ page


    "Complicated equipment and light reflectors and various other items of hardware are enough, to my mind, to prevent the birdie from coming out." ...... Henri Cartier-Bresson

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    • Eric H
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 15

      #3
      Great, thanks Thomas.

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      • JoshK
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2005
        • 748

        #4
        I just read that some German proved that a baffle 2.2 times the effective width of the driver in question is optimal for minimized diffraction effect. take that fwiw. I saw it mentioned on diyaudio.

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        • thadman
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 248

          #5
          Originally posted by JoshK
          I just read that some German proved that a baffle 2.2 times the effective width of the driver in question is optimal for minimized diffraction effect. take that fwiw. I saw it mentioned on diyaudio.
          the mounting frame or the diameter of the speaker cone derived from its area?

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          • JoshK
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2005
            • 748

            #6
            I'd have to look up the link...I got the impression that effective width was cone diameter or maybe including surround.

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            • Rudolf
              Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 97

              #7
              Originally posted by JoshK
              I just read that some German proved that a baffle 2.2 times the effective width of the driver in question is optimal for minimized diffraction effect.
              The effective (sic) width is meant as the moving area of the driver aka Sd.
              One has to keep in mind that this analysis was purely mathematical. And strictly speaking it relates to a circular baffle with the driver in its center only.
              The more your real baffle departs from this assumption, the less you need to care about the findings.

              The source
              Rudolf
              dipolplus.de

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              • Dennis H
                Ultra Senior Member
                • Aug 2002
                • 3798

                #8
                Thanks for the link, Rudolf. My German is a bit rusty but it sounds like he's saying 2.2*D should be the largest size to minimize diffraction but smaller is okay. Is that how you read it?

                And of course, as you say, he's testing a circular baffle and assumes 'perfect' dipole drivers with no rear basket, etc., so real-world results will probably be different.

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                • Rudolf
                  Member
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 97

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dennis H
                  My German is a bit rusty but it sounds like he's saying 2.2*D should be the largest size to minimize diffraction but smaller is okay. Is that how you read it?
                  Exactly!
                  But you are not allowed to call your German "rusty" as long as you can understand anything of that prose.
                  In fact that paper is written more complicated than the theory it describes.
                  Rudolf
                  dipolplus.de

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