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  • dyazdani
    Moderator Emeritus
    • Oct 2005
    • 7032

    Miter Saw Question

    I need a little advice concerning the purchase of a miter saw. I'm primarily buying it for some wood floors I'm putting in, but that's OK.

    For roughly the same money (~$250) I can get a 10" sliding miter from Sears or a 12" Hitachi standard compound miter.

    So, the question is would it be better to get the sliding type or just go up in size to a 12"? I can't get by with only a 10" (too bad, I know ) because the flooring I'm purchasing is too wide.

    Thanks!
    Danish
  • orbifold
    Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 70

    #2
    sears?

    dyazdani, some years ago, I owned plenty of Sears woodworking tools. An old foreman used to say "Sears is fine for tools--as long as ther're wrenches." You could always check with mechanics on their version of that. I bet they are much better now, everybody is, but of the two, I vote Hitachi, if the 12" gets you the cut you need. I often lift the material to finish the cut on my DeWalt 10" which I am quite happy with, but that's no good for a flooring cut. :B
    I retain a dislike for Sears, and Skil, too. Wish I could give you more up to date info.

    Dave
    Don't fight, don't argue... If you stay healthy and wait by the river, you'll see all your enemies float by, one by one!

    Anonymous

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    • JoshK
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2005
      • 748

      #3
      I was looking at compound mitres a while back. I was looking to get a sliding miter but then a 12" Makita (non-slider) came up on my local craigslist and I snagged it. The 12" does everything I need a miter to do. Which is to say, you will probably not wish it was a slider once you get it. 12" can do a lot.

      I too would shy away from Sears and I've heard good things about Hitachi tools, I own one of their routers and its a beast.

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      • dyazdani
        Moderator Emeritus
        • Oct 2005
        • 7032

        #4
        I agree on the Sears thing as well except in certain situations. I have a Craftsman Pro router that is really a Bosch in different clothes, so I didn't have a problem with it. I also have a circular saw from them that works decent for the money.

        I'll probably snag the Hitachi (it does look very nice) next time I'm around a Lowes...
        Danish

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        • aud19
          Twin Moderator Emeritus
          • Aug 2003
          • 16706

          #5
          I vote for the 12" as well :T
          Jason

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          • RobP
            Ultra Senior Member
            • Nov 2004
            • 4747

            #6
            Hitachi makes a very nice saw, I own both a stationary and slider, after I got the slider I never use the stationary, its a much more versitile tool, I would spend the extra few dollars and get a slider, in the long run you will be glad you did. Here is a pic of the 10" slider.


            Robert P. 8)

            AKA "Soundgravy"

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            • aud19
              Twin Moderator Emeritus
              • Aug 2003
              • 16706

              #7
              Or yes, there's Robert's option of spending more money :
              Jason

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              • tyler
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 101

                #8
                My vote on the miter goes to the Hitachi. I own the latest version of the 12" slider. :T

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                • aud19
                  Twin Moderator Emeritus
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 16706

                  #9
                  :drool: Nice saw!! :P :T

                  Originally posted by tyler
                  My vote on the miter goes to the Hitachi. I own the latest version of the 12" slider. :T

                  Jason

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                  • topp
                    Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 40

                    #10
                    You may get more input at a tool forum, I recommend woodnet.net. For what it is worth I have Makita 10" sliding and it does everything I have needed it to do.

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                    • tyler
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 101

                      #11
                      Originally posted by aud19
                      :drool: Nice saw!! :P :T
                      Thanks! It does a great job! :B

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                      • RobP
                        Ultra Senior Member
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 4747

                        #12
                        Originally posted by aud19
                        Or yes, there's Robert's option of spending more money :

                        :lol:
                        I found when it comes to tools, just spend a little more the first time, you may not need all of the capabilities it can offer at first, but later on you usually end up upgrading and spending more money.


                        I got mine cheaper by opening up a lowes credit card, they gave me 10% off, I then had a 10% cupon from another home center and gave it to them. Lowes will honor other offers from competing companys. :T
                        Robert P. 8)

                        AKA "Soundgravy"

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                        • RobP
                          Ultra Senior Member
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 4747

                          #13
                          Originally posted by tyler
                          My vote on the miter goes to the Hitachi. I own the latest version of the 12" slider. :T


                          Wow, they sure have changed the way they look......looks like RoboSaw.. :T
                          Robert P. 8)

                          AKA "Soundgravy"

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                          • aud19
                            Twin Moderator Emeritus
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 16706

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Soundgravy
                            Wow, they sure have changed the way they look......looks like RoboSaw.. :T
                            Their new head designer is H.R. Giger :lol:
                            Jason

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                            • stidrvr
                              Member
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 49

                              #15
                              I also vote for A slider, I use a 10" Milwaukee. Although I do agree with what others have said about Sears quality. One other thing to consider, is that there is a substantial jump in blade prices from 10" to 12"

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                              • cjd
                                Ultra Senior Member
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 5570

                                #16
                                I use a table saw with a sled...
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                                • orbifold
                                  Member
                                  • Jun 2006
                                  • 70

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by cjd
                                  I use a table saw with a sled...
                                  What cjd said :B
                                  Mine was 22" xcut with a Biesmeyer stop and a tape fence set inside. Only she was old and too big. I saved the goodies and will make a smaller one next shelf project.
                                  Don't fight, don't argue... If you stay healthy and wait by the river, you'll see all your enemies float by, one by one!

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                                  • tyler
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Feb 2007
                                    • 101

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by aud19
                                    Their new head designer is H.R. Giger :lol:

                                    It does give that type of appearance. But if that were the case it would probably launch the blade instead of spin it! 8O

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                                    • dyazdani
                                      Moderator Emeritus
                                      • Oct 2005
                                      • 7032

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by cjd
                                      I use a table saw with a sled...
                                      Got one, but I really want a miter saw too :W My table saw isn't that great, so I'd like a chance to upgrade the mitering capability I currently have.
                                      Danish

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                                      • dyazdani
                                        Moderator Emeritus
                                        • Oct 2005
                                        • 7032

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Soundgravy
                                        Hitachi makes a very nice saw, I own both a stationary and slider, after I got the slider I never use the stationary, its a much more versitile tool, I would spend the extra few dollars and get a slider, in the long run you will be glad you did. Here is a pic of the 10" slider.
                                        I didn't look for a 10" Hitachi slider - I just happen to run across the one from Sears. I'll take a look and see.

                                        I'm with you on the extra money - I aready wish I bought a better table saw after using it about one time. I'm willing to spend the $$ on the 12" Hitachi no problem, it's just whether I really need the slider or not. I don't think I do, but I'll keep looking and thinking...
                                        Danish

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                                        • tyler
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Feb 2007
                                          • 101

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by dyazdani
                                          Got one, but I really want a miter saw too :W My table saw isn't that great, so I'd like a chance to upgrade the mitering capability I currently have.
                                          I also have a sled for my table saw. However, I still utilize both the table saw and the miter. It really depends on the application.

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                                          • RobP
                                            Ultra Senior Member
                                            • Nov 2004
                                            • 4747

                                            #22
                                            what would really be more useful would be a good radial arm saw. :T
                                            Robert P. 8)

                                            AKA "Soundgravy"

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                                            • Alaric
                                              Ultra Senior Member
                                              • Jan 2006
                                              • 4143

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by aud19
                                              Their new head designer is H.R. Giger :lol:

                                              :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
                                              Lee

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                                              • hollywood11111
                                                Junior Member
                                                • Mar 2007
                                                • 2

                                                #24
                                                unless you need the extra cutting width, stick with a non-sliding saw. they're more accurate. I find some sliding saws have some play in the slides. I personally am a dewalt guy. My 12" saw was true and square right out of the box.

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                                                • Dennis H
                                                  Ultra Senior Member
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 3798

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by hollywood11111
                                                  unless you need the extra cutting width, stick with a non-sliding saw. they're more accurate. I find some sliding saws have some play in the slides. I personally am a dewalt guy. My 12" saw was true and square right out of the box.
                                                  And radial-arm saws are even worse with the play thing. They're okay for framing but you need to spend big bucks to get a radial arm tight enough for cabinet work.

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                                                  • Pookie007
                                                    Senior Member
                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                    • 212

                                                    #26
                                                    You probably will want to change out the blade when you get it. Most 10" come with 37 tooth blades. For fine work, you probably want a 60 tooth. If you are cutting 2x4" you will be fine with the 37 but it will leave a rough edge.

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                                                    • Lex
                                                      Moderator Emeritus
                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 27461

                                                      #27
                                                      I tend to get ridgid power tools from HDepot now. But I got a Porter Cable compound mitre saw.
                                                      Doug
                                                      "I'm out there Jerry, and I'm loving every minute of it!" - Kramer

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                                                      • whoaru99
                                                        Senior Member
                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                        • 638

                                                        #28
                                                        I really like my Bosch 12" (non-sliding) compound miter...
                                                        There are some things which are impossible to know, but it is impossible to know which things these are. :scratchhead:

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                                                        • Ray Collins
                                                          Senior Member
                                                          • Mar 2006
                                                          • 257

                                                          #29
                                                          Just as I was reaching for my wallet to purchase a 12" Bosch slider, my friend, who is building a new home, offered to loan me his 12" DeWalt slider until his home is completed. This saw is a BOY DOG!!! It is accurate, powerful and very easy to use. Here is hoping for construction delays!!!

                                                          Ray
                                                          Wine is constant proof that God loves us, and loves to see us happy.
                                                          BENJAMIN FRANKLIN

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                                                          • orbifold
                                                            Member
                                                            • Jun 2006
                                                            • 70

                                                            #30
                                                            Play

                                                            Ditto again on the play thing. I have an old (deWalt) 10" radial. I use it for two things. To chop long lengths to something that will swing around in my dinky one-car garage shop, and the 10' table is a work area. As to the table saw, mine is just a Rockwell contractor's 10" but I put it on rollers, added outfeed and side tables, junked the fence for a Biesemeyer TSquare, and changed the motor over to 220 volt. A good aftemarket fence is required to be Happy :B If you can find one that fits your tsaw, it could change your feeling about the puchase :T If not, Jonathan's rule applies:

                                                            Experience is the hardest teacher, she gives the test first, then the lesson :E

                                                            I've had plenty, fixed em if possible, or just tossed em if not.

                                                            Dave
                                                            Don't fight, don't argue... If you stay healthy and wait by the river, you'll see all your enemies float by, one by one!

                                                            Anonymous

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                                                            • Doug
                                                              Senior Member
                                                              • Aug 2000
                                                              • 118

                                                              #31
                                                              I wanted something good for corner round mouldings was my primary focus and just something good for mitre cuts of any kind. I needed to do a moulding job around a jacuzzi tub to save a vinyl floor for now. It was the type flooring they don't make now, that starts contracting as soon as you take off roll. The major issue with it was, you could not just glue and caulk and have it stay. Eventually it pulls loose and shrinks! Since it had already shrunk beyond a staple and caulk point, I saved it by stapling and then doing quarter round. That looked a bit out of sorts with tile meeting vinyl, but it's better than a blotched floor showing, and cheaper than redoing the whole thing for now. So, my saw was for 1 job, then I have it left for others later if need be. I don't even remember if mine was a 10 or 12", probably just a 10, as I Was not concerned about really large stuff, I have a table saw for that.

                                                              I lost the other floor made out of this vinyl stuff when it shrunk beyond repair on me at the tub. I replaced that floor with tile, thus, when I bought my tile saw, lol.

                                                              Looks like Porter got out of the mitre saw biz for now anyway.

                                                              It's nice to have the right saw for the job when needed. That's why I have a:
                                                              tile saw (budget tiawann model)
                                                              mitre saw
                                                              table saw
                                                              reciprocating scroll saw (the good one on a stand)
                                                              and hand power saws.

                                                              I don't care that they are the very best, just that they do my jobs when called upon to perform.

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