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  • jdybnis
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 399

    HiVi coax

    Looks like Hi-Vi put up some specs on their new coax mid-tweeter.





    Apologies if this is a repost.
    -Josh
  • ThomasW
    Moderator Emeritus
    • Aug 2000
    • 10934

    #2
    Nope, not a repost....

    That's a really strange driver..... 8O

    IB subwoofer FAQ page


    "Complicated equipment and light reflectors and various other items of hardware are enough, to my mind, to prevent the birdie from coming out." ...... Henri Cartier-Bresson

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    • Chris7
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 128

      #3
      There's an even stranger Hi-Vi "triaxial" coming out soon.

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      • digital desire
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 248

        #4
        In theory, how would an arrangement (maybe not this driver though) like this with a W on either side of it make a center? Would the combing effects be present?
        Peter
        Syracuse, N.Y.

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        • cotdt
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 393

          #5
          i'm sure people like AJ would be interested in these weird speakers...

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          • cjd
            Ultra Senior Member
            • Dec 2004
            • 5568

            #6
            Combing is significantly an issue of how high the drivers on either side end up playing. So yes, probably still an issue here. On my MTM the impact is as low as ~800Hz I think.

            C
            diVine Sound - my DIY speaker designs at diVine Audio

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            • TurboFC3S
              Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 93

              #7
              Theil is doing a very similar design, with great success. Those HiVi S1's definately have my interest ... they're worth playing with I think.

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              • Jed
                Ultra Senior Member
                • Apr 2005
                • 3617

                #8
                I can't imagine this one as a low distortion driver. Looks like some sort of adaption of their planar "ribbon" tweeter, which is a distortion generator IIRC. Who knows though, with the tweeter section crossed at 8K it shouldn't be a problem.

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                • jdybnis
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 399

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chris7
                  There's an even stranger Hi-Vi "triaxial" coming out soon.
                  Any more info?
                  -Josh

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                  • AJINFLA
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 680

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cotdt
                    i'm sure people like AJ would be interested in these weird speakers...
                    None whatsover. Saw them months ago. Looks like chinese bling junk to me. The right direction but they are just flailing about. That unit covers a range where there needs not be an XO or multiple diaphragms. Probably not real well either.

                    cheers,

                    AJ
                    Manufacturer

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                    • jdybnis
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 399

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AJINFLA
                      None whatsover. Saw them months ago. Looks like chinese bling junk to me. The right direction but they are just flailing about. That unit covers a range where there needs not be an XO or multiple diaphragms. Probably not real well either.

                      cheers,

                      AJ
                      I agree 90%, but...

                      What non-exotic (<$1000) driver can cover 800Hz to 20Hz without compromising dispersion. Also, since they will probably be cheap to buy they might make good material for experimenting with interesting looking designs.
                      -Josh

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                      • Chris7
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 128

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jdybnis
                        Any more info?
                        The triaxial is called the Trinity 6. Not sure about the details, all I have is this scan from a Hi-Vi ad I found while reading another forum.

                        There are better photos on the Hi-Vi website, though you have to have great patience for it to load:
                        Attached Files

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                        • TurboFC3S
                          Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 93

                          #13
                          I doubt the mid/tweet co-ax from a Theil 2.4 would test perfectly, but they sound fantastic ... probably in large part due to the point source configuration.

                          Who knows how these sound, but I'd be willing to give them a shot because they're at least trying to produce something unique - props for that. And if the capture just a fraction of the positive attribues Thiel has, they're worth a listen.

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                          • gmed
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 207

                            #14
                            They actually have a store in Old Town, Pasadena. I can try to see if they have any more info on the Trinity 6.

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                            • AJINFLA
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 680

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jdybnis
                              I agree 90%, but...

                              What non-exotic (<$1000) driver can cover 800Hz to 20Hz without compromising dispersion. Also, since they will probably be cheap to buy they might make good material for experimenting with interesting looking designs.
                              Can cover? I'll reserve judgement on the useablity of a 650 Fs driver down to 800hz when I see some measurements. My XT-25 "Can cover" 800-30k. But I'm sure not going to use it in that range . SPtech is using regular ol' tweeters to cover that range. An Aura NSW2 can cover that range (up to about 16k). Its not too exotic.

                              cheers,

                              AJ
                              Manufacturer

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                              • sliceofhogan
                                Junior Member
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 24

                                #16
                                Klang + Ton (german mag 1-2007) tested the three-way version. It will also be tested in HobbyHifi 2-2007 (don't have it yet). It is sold in europe by expolinear (www.expolinear.de)
                                Response looks horrible btw.

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                                • jkrutke
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Dec 2005
                                  • 590

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sliceofhogan
                                  Klang + Ton (german mag 1-2007) tested the three-way version. It will also be tested in HobbyHifi 2-2007 (don't have it yet). It is sold in europe by expolinear (www.expolinear.de)
                                  Response looks horrible btw.
                                  Likewise, it was tested in Voice Coil a while back and the response curves looked horrible. No idea about non-linear distortion performance, but my hopes aren't exactly high. Hi-Vi makes some good stuff but they make some poor performers too.

                                  I wish we could get all the cool magazines that the Germans get. K+T is supposedly online, but it's still in German and the purchase routine didn't work for me anyway. (Distortion plots are the universal language) :B
                                  Zaph|Audio

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                                  • sliceofhogan
                                    Junior Member
                                    • Aug 2005
                                    • 24

                                    #18
                                    Zaph - do like the germans do, start your own cool magazine :B

                                    btw: got the HobbyHifi, graphs look the same (that is horrible)

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                                    • Jed
                                      Ultra Senior Member
                                      • Apr 2005
                                      • 3617

                                      #19
                                      Klang and Ton can be downloaded here: http://www.lloxx.de/KLANG___TON_eMag...magazin.0.html

                                      Just in case anyone wants to start a digital collection.

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