Dayton TMWW matching tower/center?

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  • nezz621
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 21

    Dayton TMWW matching tower/center?

    So i've purchased most of the tools i need, including the enough wood to build a set of TMWW towers and a center. I'd like to purchase everything for the towers and center at the same time, but im concerned that the center designs don't match correctly with the towers. I'm looking at Dennis's design (most likely), but i seem to get confused with all the updates on the crossover designs.


    My question is... if i build Dennis's "updated" towers, and his center design (not sure if there are multiple XO designs) will they match properly?

    Being new to this is awfully exciting, but can be frustrating at times b/c the information is scattered
  • cobbpa
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2005
    • 456

    #2
    Do you have any preference between the Seas or Dayton tweeter? There are designs for both tweeters, for both towers and center. Pick the same tweeter from the same designer and things should blend well.


    Have you seen this thread? If you want, pick through that and get your cart ready at PE. Copy & post the cart contents and we can give it a check for you :T

    Oh, and since it's newish..when you make the final purchase...be sure to use the banner at the top of the page to go to PE. It's supposed to help the forum out.

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    • digital desire
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 248

      #3


      I think they are rs180's (the wwmt's are 150's) and the same tweeter,- I wonder how I would countersink the square midrange as nice as they did - in a PE 1 cube box.

      Did anyone who built the wwmt's build these?
      Peter
      Syracuse, N.Y.

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      • zest
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 9

        #4
        http://www.selahaudio.com/id115.html

        I think they are rs180's (the wwmt's are 150's) and the same tweeter,- I wonder how I would countersink the square midrange as nice as they did - in a PE 1 cube box.

        Did anyone who built the wwmt's build these?
        __________________
        Peter
        Syracuse,
        im interested in these as well

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        • Brian Walter
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2005
          • 318

          #5
          Originally posted by digital desire
          http://www.selahaudio.com/id115.html

          I think they are rs180's (the wwmt's are 150's) and the same tweeter,- I wonder how I would countersink the square midrange as nice as they did - in a PE 1 cube box.

          Did anyone who built the wwmt's build these?
          Rick's center does use the RS180's for the midbass, but he is using the Morel MDM55 for the midrange and the 3/4" Seas tweeter, not the 1" as used in the RS - TMWW project. While I think this is probably an excellent center channel, I expect they would quite similar to the RS-TMWW, but not necessarily so. Also, the MDM55 is only partially shielded and the 3/4" Seas tweeter is not, so if you need to put this on top or under a CRT TV, it might not work out very well.

          Brian Walter

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          • digital desire
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 248

            #6
            That leaves these then: (but still not the same tweeter)
            Peter
            Syracuse, N.Y.

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            • cjd
              Ultra Senior Member
              • Dec 2004
              • 5570

              #7
              Originally posted by digital desire
              That leaves these then: (but still not the same tweeter)
              http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=19887
              You could upgrade the TMWW's to the TDFC
              diVine Sound - my DIY speaker designs at diVine Audio

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              • dawaro
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 263

                #8
                Originally posted by cjd
                You could upgrade the TMWW's to the TDFC
                IIRC Jon has stated that the TDFC and TBFC are interchangeable...am I remembering this right?
                I am not Dawaro the muslim state in Ethiopia...Just DAvid WAyne ROberts

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                • cjd
                  Ultra Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 5570

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dawaro
                  IIRC Jon has stated that the TDFC and TBFC are interchangeable...am I remembering this right?
                  Maybe. That depends on whether the designer has done anything to fix the top end of either tweeter, as both have issues with incompatible solutions.

                  The tweeters *are* interchangeable this aside - if you put a TBFC in mine it would simply roll off a little bit more above 10k - probably not ideal but not bad (hey, it'll give you that "tube" sound ). I don't know if any top frequency tweaks are made to the TBFC in the TMWW towers, but if not you *could* drop a TDFC in there without trouble.

                  And, FWIW, my comment about the TDFC being an upgrade is tongue-in-cheek - just in case anyone doesn't know that. The TBFC hits my ears in a bad spot and they're not as listenable for me, but many people prefer them.

                  C
                  diVine Sound - my DIY speaker designs at diVine Audio

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                  • Jim Holtz
                    Ultra Senior Member
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 3223

                    #10
                    Originally posted by digital desire
                    That leaves these then: (but still not the same tweeter)
                    http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=19887
                    Hi Peter,

                    I'm curious why you're not waiting for the W-M/T-W with RS180's, RS52 and D26NC that Jon is working on? The center I did for my Son sounds very good and he's happy but for a few bucks more, the W-M/T-W will offer much better dispersion, greater dynamics, better bass and be a solution you won't want to replace in the future, IMHO.

                    Jim

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                    • digital desire
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 248

                      #11
                      Ummm. - Because I didn't know?
                      I'll wait, not mission critical yet!
                      Is there a thread for this? Guess I missed that one.
                      Peter
                      Syracuse, N.Y.

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                      • Jim Holtz
                        Ultra Senior Member
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 3223

                        #12
                        Originally posted by digital desire
                        Ummm. - Because I didn't know?
                        I'll wait, not mission critical yet!
                        Is there a thread for this? Guess I missed that one.
                        Peter,

                        Here is the thread I was referring to. http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=22812

                        Jon just received the RS52's last week which is what he was waiting for. I think work is now getting in his way but I think it's reasonable to say that he'll have something fairly soon. Jon gets really busy at work so it may be a while yet, but I think well worth the wait.

                        HTH

                        Jim

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                        • cjd
                          Ultra Senior Member
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 5570

                          #13
                          So, you're worried about a tweeter mismatch for the MTM vs TMWW yet this WTMW is an option? With ALL different drivers... :lol:

                          C
                          diVine Sound - my DIY speaker designs at diVine Audio

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                          • digital desire
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 248

                            #14
                            I do remember on a different thread, someone suggested that the 225 and 180's were for all intents and purposes intechangeable w/ respect to electrical/acoustical properties. (barring f3 of course!) If that was true......
                            So, maybe?
                            Peter
                            Syracuse, N.Y.

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                            • cjd
                              Ultra Senior Member
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 5570

                              #15
                              Oh, probably. And similar to the RS150 in a great many respects too. It's just that the tweeter change would be far less dramatic than the mid/tweet combined change - but then, the RS180's will be covering half the range the 150 covers in the towers, so...

                              It's just even more of a difference - not that it's necessarily going to be an actual issue.

                              C
                              diVine Sound - my DIY speaker designs at diVine Audio

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                              • digital desire
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 248

                                #16
                                I think I will have to builld the exact wwmt center and ask for forgivness!
                                Peter
                                Syracuse, N.Y.

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