251.92 shipped.... probably wont build my box for my ascendent audio avalanch for a month or two
just bought the Buttkicker amp
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purchased the "last one " after this one was doa and instantly the page refreshes from last one to "in stock" lol
so far unimpressed but am willing to try again due to price
dont know how amazon is making money with free shipping to me and back on this- Bottom
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got the second one
dont know why the hp x/o is defeatable because its class d and sounds like crap full range
also the lp x/o doesnt seem to be steep enough so anyone wanting to use one in mid bass region may want to look elsewere
will need to build a box to make further subjective sq observations
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BK doesn't even recommend this amp for driving subs, let alone higher frequencies. It was specifically designed and built for their transducers. So obviously it's not intended for anything other than low bass.
IB subwoofer FAQ page
"Complicated equipment and light reflectors and various other items of hardware are enough, to my mind, to prevent the birdie from coming out." ...... Henri Cartier-Bresson- Bottom
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i couldnt find any info of them stating not to use with speakers
All my sub amps sound like sh*t full-range, but don't carry warnings about it.
and thats exactly my point why have a defeatable x/o if its class d- Bottom
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m not aware of any reciever that by passes the volume control but utilizes a crossover in a preout- Bottom
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Originally posted by Jack GilveyNot sure where bypassing the volume control comes into it, but every DD receiver ever made has a crossover. Since those HT units will feed the vast majority of BK amps, they allow you to defeat the internal crossover if you want.
if a preamp you have full signal output hence the need for volume and x/o
this has become a stupid thread anyways....- Bottom
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The Buttkicker amp for subs is nice because it is fanless - period. This is its one and only feature that makes it different than other subs on the market.
As for why it may have a x/o and volume, think Bose. If someone buys one of these kits for one of America's best selling home theater systems, then they may need these features. Some Bose systems have all the crossover in the bass module, not in the receiver.
Anyways, who cares.- Bottom
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well i would argue there are better choices for an amp than this one if you have a reciever as you will have volume control and x/o
this has become a stupid thread anyways....
The Buttkicker amp for subs is nice because it is fanless - period. This is its one and only feature that makes it different than other subs on the market.- Bottom
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And it's fairly cheap, especially as part of the LFE kit. I don't know what the big issue is, it's not even a sub amp, but happens to work well in this role.
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I'm pretty sure that Steve got that from someone else.
The amp is just like anything else. Something is good for something, gets a little press, then hype builds, then the hype gets out of control, and then people start complaining because it doesn't live up to the hype.- Bottom
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Yeah, its a down a whopping 3-4dB at 10Hz, I don't know how it could work as a sub amp. Totally useless.
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The amp is just like anything else. Something is good for something, gets a little press, then hype builds, then the hype gets out of control, and then people start complaining because it doesn't live up to the hype.
It is a fan less 1000W sub amplifier with no built in high pass and consumer-level sensitivity on the RCA input, for $250. Thats all....but it works as advertised. :Z- Bottom
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Yeah, its a down a whopping 3-4dB at 10Hzwith no built in high pass- Bottom
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It's a good buy for those wanting a low buck passively cooled subwoofer amp. Just don't tell The Guitammer Company what you're using it for.... :B
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"Complicated equipment and light reflectors and various other items of hardware are enough, to my mind, to prevent the birdie from coming out." ...... Henri Cartier-Bresson- Bottom
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Originally posted by Dennis HA bit more, I think, but who's counting? Errrr, what do you call that LF rolloff? Doesn't look like much on a 160dB graph but, if it were scaled better, it would look different.
The highest relative amplitude doesn't appear to be over 18dB. At 10Hz, it looks like it is close to 14dB to me. If you can come up with a much more accurate assessment, I am all ears.
I call it "not a discrete high-pass". To think otherwise, would be crrrrraaaazy. :??- Bottom
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...what do you want me to tell you? I should have rephrased that. I meant that unlike other sub amps (say, the overpriced 1000W rack mount from PE), it apparently has no built-in high pass above 10Hz. The natural roll-off of the amp does not indicate otherwise.
I never claimed that the BKA has as flat a FR curve as amps from those aforementioned brands.
The amp is -4dB at 10Hz as is...which simply isn't that steep of a roll-off to me. Is it as good as other amps? Of course not, but it works for me and many others. If the 25Hz high pass filter is turned on, the amp is -13dB @ 10Hz....now that is a steep roll-off.
If someone is trying to chase single-digit frequencies, they should definitely not be using this amp. Otherwise, what is the big deal?- Bottom
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The amp is just like anything else. Something is good for something, gets a little press, then hype builds, then the hype gets out of control, and then people start complaining because it doesn't live up to the hype.
As I've stated before, it's a fanless, cheap amp that's at least stable into two ohms. I purchased two LFE kits, and am using one to power my LFE's...so the "extra" amp I'm using cost me ~$100. If you have a sub that's flat to 10hz, you might want to look at something else, though.- Bottom
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for the record i wasnt complaining about its performance outside of the seemingly shallow x/o
i just find it odd that a class d has a defeatable x/o considering the noise that is generated around 250hz.... i think many some have read into that statement too much
as far as the freq resp graph i cant imagine a plate amp does much better in this price range
maybe ill drag in my car subs to see what it can do at two ohms in the mean time
on a side note does anyone know where a good source of paper backed veneer as the stuff i bought on ebay impressed upon me how challenging it will be if not paper backed- Bottom
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for the record i wasnt complaining about its performance outside of the seemingly shallow x/o
i just find it odd that a class d has a defeatable x/o considering the noise that is generated around 250hz.... i think many some have read into that statement too much
well i would argue there are better choices for an amp than this one if you have a reciever as you will have volume control and x/o- Bottom
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I have only had it for maybe a month.
Maybe I am not so picky, but I have been *very* satisified with it. Right now only driving a nht 1259, coupled with a bassis, in a 3.1ft cabinet. So I have not taxed it very much before the 1259 begins to bleed and cry.
Waiting for the tc 2K to swap out and work it out some.
Really, at least for my type of situation, I can not imagine someone not being happy with it.Peter
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I just had one of mine fizzle this morning. System wasn't running but the amp was on and, after some intermittent buzzing from within the chassis, it was gone. No output at all. I called Guitammer with the issue, and within 10 minutes had an e-mail with the tracking number for my replacement. As with my LFE that rattled, they're including a pre-paid return tag and I'm to just send the bad one back in the box the new one arrives in. Can it get any simpler? No quizzes as to warantee, receipts, etc...just a replacement sent right out. Great company.- Bottom
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Luckily I'm not short on sub amps here. Blew the dust off my trusty old PE 300-800 plate, boost defeated, and it seems happy to be remembered.- Bottom
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