Ascendant Arsenal 15's?

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  • Exocer
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 262

    Ascendant Arsenal 15's?

    Hi guys,
    I was wondering since these drivers have been around for a while if anyone here has used them in projects?
  • joetama
    Senior Member
    • May 2006
    • 786

    #2
    I have never heard one, but I know some people who have had them... Everyone seems very So So about them. I have used some Ascendants before, and I honestly have never really been that inpressed with them....
    -Joe

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    • Exocer
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 262

      #3
      Yeah...I sorta see why one would come to that conclusion. The Arsenal 15 doesn't model quite as well as I would have hoped...not that this is an end all solution to judging a subwoofer's performance. Thanks

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      • knifeinthesink
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 163

        #4
        I have no first hand experience with the company but google them and read afew postings regarding other peoples experience with them before you order.

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        • joetama
          Senior Member
          • May 2006
          • 786

          #5
          Actually, I have heard that the owner is trying to sell the company off to a guy that knows nothing about running a business. Also the engineering staff is also going away too.... I think it would be a bad idea to go with Ascendant stuff.....
          -Joe

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          • mayala
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2006
            • 12

            #6
            I have nothing but good experience with ascendant, i own a pair of assasins and a pair of their mids. I use them for car audio however.

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            • Exocer
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 262

              #7
              Originally posted by joetama
              Actually, I have heard that the owner is trying to sell the company off to a guy that knows nothing about running a business. Also the engineering staff is also going away too.... I think it would be a bad idea to go with Ascendant stuff.....
              Thats sad news.

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              • noah katz
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 188

                #8
                "Actually, I have heard that the owner is trying to sell the company off to a guy that knows nothing about running a business. Also the engineering staff is also going away too"

                Where did you hear that?

                I thought Chad, the owner, was the engineering guy.

                Thanks
                ------------------------------
                Noah

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                • ifeliciano
                  Junior Member
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 15

                  #9
                  I use the Atlas 12 (old model) in my HT and have not had a problem with it. It sounds great, but have in mind im not a "big boom" type guy. I like my bass to be noticeable but subtle. Chad helped me with the enclosure design.

                  I second Noah on the engineering staff issue. Last time I talked to Chad they were only 2 guys in the company, and Chad does customer support, engineering, sales, etc..

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                  • joetama
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2006
                    • 786

                    #10
                    Originally posted by noah katz
                    "Actually, I have heard that the owner is trying to sell the company off to a guy that knows nothing about running a business. Also the engineering staff is also going away too"

                    Where did you hear that?

                    I thought Chad, the owner, was the engineering guy.

                    Thanks
                    I have my sources...... A bit of the grape vine effect, but all the same. I'm not sure what is going on with it now, but a few weeks ago the deal was going down....

                    Your right Chad is the "engineering guy".
                    -Joe

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                    • Dennis H
                      Ultra Senior Member
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 3798

                      #11
                      Your right Chad is the "engineering guy".
                      Not really. He didn't know how to calculate the proper T/S params for a resistively damped DVC sub which was supposed to be his claim to fame.

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                      • joetama
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2006
                        • 786

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dennis H
                        Not really. He didn't know how to calculate the proper T/S params for a resistively damped DVC sub which was supposed to be his claim to fame.
                        I was being a bit cynical, that's why I put "engineering guy" in "".....
                        -Joe

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                        • peterS
                          Super Senior Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 1038

                          #13
                          wow did that company get unpopular fast... live and die by the sword

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                          • joetama
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2006
                            • 786

                            #14
                            It pretty much started with the whole poly mid mess about 6 months ago, then everyone lost interest in them. Especially with some of the new sub companies that are coming out...
                            -Joe

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                            • peterS
                              Super Senior Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 1038

                              #15
                              Originally posted by joetama
                              It pretty much started with the whole poly mid mess about 6 months ago, then everyone lost interest in them. Especially with some of the new sub companies that are coming out...
                              started sooner than that in car audio... what happened with the poly's?

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                              • joetama
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2006
                                • 786

                                #16
                                Well they didn't tell anyone until they had most of them shipped, but a good percentage of them had some "known" defect other than serious tinsel slap problems. I have heard different stories about what the "defect" is. But, it was the reason that so many people had to wait so long to get them and a lot of people were really pissed because they took their money and didn’t deliver on product and you couldn’t get a hold of them....
                                -Joe

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                                • Exocer
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Feb 2006
                                  • 262

                                  #17
                                  Man, I just don't understand how drivers leave the factory with tinsel slapping issues...Shouldn't this type of problem be dealt with before it gets in the hands of customers?

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                                  • joetama
                                    Senior Member
                                    • May 2006
                                    • 786

                                    #18
                                    Uhh yea..... Thats why so many people were so angry about it. They wouldnt even help you out when they had that problem. People had to figure out fixes on their own. We have about 8 of them now that we got for various reasons, car and home, and we figured out a way to glue the tinsels to the spider so they wouldnt do it....

                                    Crazy stuff though.....
                                    -Joe

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                                    • noah katz
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Dec 2005
                                      • 188

                                      #19
                                      "we figured out a way to glue the tinsels to the spider so they wouldnt do it...."

                                      That could br asking for trouble; reducing the unsupported length of the tinsel greatly increases it's stiffness

                                      This could cause premature failure of the tinsel and/or the spider.
                                      ------------------------------
                                      Noah

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                                      • noah katz
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Dec 2005
                                        • 188

                                        #20
                                        I'd try making thin, low density foam jackets to go around the leads.
                                        ------------------------------
                                        Noah

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                                        • Exocer
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Feb 2006
                                          • 262

                                          #21
                                          Either way, the Arsenal 15" wants too large of a box for my tastes.

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