1st DIY Sub

**JonMarsh** · 20 January 2006, 21:48 Friday

Looks quite nice, William! :T

I just got a batch of the 10" RS265HF in, wish I could start working on them this weekend, but the day job is interfering. You did a nice job and the cabinet, and the finish your friend did looks fine in these pictures!

~Jon

**KeithM** · 21 January 2006, 00:07 Saturday

ist that white stripe along the side in the first picture just glare?
It looks really nice, and that cone is very sexy.

**Bent** · 21 January 2006, 00:25 Saturday

Damb. that looks good.

**---k---** · 21 January 2006, 02:11 Saturday

Wow, I'm starting to get embarrassed of my subs and thinking about taking the pictures down. Those look sooooo good. What was the black texture paint that you used?

**wrz0170** · 21 January 2006, 07:43 Saturday

Originally posted by ---k---

Wow, I'm starting to get embarrassed of my subs and thinking about taking the pictures down. Those look sooooo good. What was the black texture paint that you used?

Hi there,

Thanks for the kind words everyone.

The paint can be found at Home Depot. The name escapes me right now. I have seen it in the spray paint section.

William

**MrPorterhouse** · 23 January 2006, 09:19 Monday

WOW, that subs looks great. Nice Job. How low does this sub extend? Is there any output below 25Hz, or is that about where it rolls off?

By the way, Has anyone done a vented enclosure with this driver and amp combo? That would seem like a very popular project, especially with both on sale right now from PE.

**wrz0170** · 23 January 2006, 13:24 Monday

Originally posted by MrPorterhouse

WOW, that subs looks great. Nice Job. How low does this sub extend? Is there any output below 25Hz, or is that about where it rolls off?

Not sure yet how low it can go. My buddy is working on getting some test stuff together because I am definitely interested to see where this stacks. As newbie, all I know is that lower means good

One question I have out of curiosity, if one were to buy something reasonably comparable out in the retail world, what would something like this go for? Ball park?

**MrPorterhouse** · 25 January 2006, 18:03 Wednesday

It would probably be ported, and it would have a precison tuned cabinet and port to go for maximum SPL, and it would run about $800-$1000.

**wrz0170** · 26 January 2006, 09:08 Thursday

Originally posted by MrPorterhouse

It would probably be ported, and it would have a precison tuned cabinet and port to go for maximum SPL, and it would run about $800-$1000.

thanks! Once I get some specs on it, I will post them. It's still breaking in, but even now it sounds fantastic. For the first time, I can actually hear the highs and lows of the bass. My old one always sounded like a muffled, one dimensional, sick cow.

**Geoff** · 28 January 2006, 00:26 Saturday

-->wrz0170

Not sure yet how low it can go. My buddy is working on getting some test stuff together because I am definitely interested to see where this stacks. As newbie, all I know is that lower means good

wrz0170,
Very nice job with your first DIY sub. And yes, I'm quite sure the "SQ" and Extension comparision to your old sub, well there is really none.

When you & your friend take some measurements be sure to include how they were done, Spl meter and test tones, or other. Also where the sub is/was placed, if your using the Plate amps PEQ and or other external PEQ, room size & openings if any, etc. This gives those reading/follwing a slightly better idea of what the sub can do in a room of similar size.
No room is the same, but I think you get the idea..

Maybe a before and after PEQ graph, if PEQ is being used.

Again, nice little sub from your pic's and likely not to be your last DIY project..

Regards
Geoff ¥

**Mazeroth** · 28 January 2006, 01:02 Saturday

Killer job! I love those Dayton RS subs. I have four now for a dipole project and will definately be buying more.

**wrz0170** · 31 January 2006, 07:26 Tuesday

Originally posted by Mazeroth

Killer job! I love those Dayton RS subs. I have four now for a dipole project and will definately be buying more.

Thanks Mazeroth for the kind words!

I just ordered the drivers for the Modula MTM (NatalieP), those too are RS series. I guess I will be keeping it in the family for my HT.

**wrz0170** · 31 January 2006, 07:29 Tuesday

Originally posted by Geoff

-->wrz0170

wrz0170,
Very nice job with your first DIY sub. And yes, I'm quite sure the "SQ" and Extension comparision to your old sub, well there is really none.

When you & your friend take some measurements be sure to include how they were done, Spl meter and test tones, or other. Also where the sub is/was placed, if your using the Plate amps PEQ and or other external PEQ, room size & openings if any, etc. This gives those reading/follwing a slightly better idea of what the sub can do in a room of similar size.
No room is the same, but I think you get the idea..

Maybe a before and after PEQ graph, if PEQ is being used.

Again, nice little sub from your pic's and likely not to be your last DIY project..

Regards
Geoff ¥

Thanks Geoff! Good stuff to keep in mind!! I hope to see what it can do. And your right, not my last DIY project.

In my previous post, I just ordered the drivers for the Modula MTM project. Can't let my table saw get cold....

**wrz0170** · 02 February 2006, 11:29 Thursday

Testing

Hey everyone,

Well, my friend brought his "Digital Video Essentials" DVD to see what I could do with it.

Let me qualify that this is the first time I ever tested out speakers, so if I did something wrong or not quite right, please let me know. I want to do it as right as I can with what I have. :T

My "ET" area is about 9 x 14 and I was sitting approx. 7ft. away at a diagnal. My room is actually 25 x 14. The sub is facing the width of the room.

I went under the menu of Bass Management and the 15hz-150hz sweep. I made sure the "Sub" icons were highlighted during testing.

In the sweep, I picked up sound starting at about 24~25hz and it dropped dead at about 130hz. + or - to both of those.

I do have a dB meter available to me. I'm not quite sure how far away it should be, etc. settings, etc.

Again, I welcome input on how I should go about this. Thanks!!!!

William

**tylerb2002** · 03 February 2006, 08:52 Friday

Dayton HPSA500

William,

Your sub looks great! How much do you want for it (jk!)

My old subwoofer died, and I was going to rebuild it using the Dayton HPSA500 Amp and MKIII driver. I wanted to ask your experience with the amp's auto on/off feature. I am hesitant to buy the amp, since this feature can't be disabled--and I had very bad experience with my old sub. It would let out a loud *pop* every time it turned on, and to top it off there was a noticeable delay.

In other words, say you're watching a movie. After a 15 minute quiet scene, some music kicks on. After a second or so delay, the sub *pops* on, only to shut off during the next quiet scene (with another pop!). *Very* annoying. Have you had any problems like this with the Dayton amp? Thanks for your help!

Enjoy,

--tb

**wrz0170** · 03 February 2006, 09:09 Friday

Hey TB,

Thank you for the kind words! So far, I haven't experienced anything like you have described. I have put several movies through it now. One movie sticks out that goes from a quiet to explosions real quick and no popping sounds. (movie is U571 during the depth charge scene).

I just got a flyer from P.E. and it appears that there is a sale on the RS subwoofer drivers and the amps.

ie,

The amp I have: HPSA500 normally $298 is now on sale for $240
The driver, RSS315HF, $129.80 is now on sale for $104

The Mark III drivers are also on sale. $20 or more off, depending on which size driver you are buying.

Good prices

**tylerb2002** · 03 February 2006, 10:09 Friday

Thanks for the info. U571 is definitely a good movie to test your sub with!

Just FYI, amp specs say that it takes 10-15 minutes of no signal before the amp goes to standby mode.

Does your flyer happen to say how long the sale will last? I have the amp and 12" MKIII driver in my shopping cart, but was waiting to get wife blessing on a pair of Dayton speaker stands before I purchase. Thanks!

Enjoy,

--tb

**wrz0170** · 03 February 2006, 10:19 Friday

The mini flyer came with my order that arrived yesterday (starting on the Modula MTM project soon

). It says the sale expires Feb 23. You have some time for the spousal approval factor.

The MKIII 12" should be on sale for $135. Reg price is $159.66

Mine was hesitant too, untils she heard it. I think her exact words "wow, that was cool" as the floor beneath her feet shook. :T Leading her to that point was the hard part...

If for some reason, you don't get the sale price in your check out, make sure you call them.

William

**tylerb2002** · 03 February 2006, 10:42 Friday

Luckily, the wife already approved the subwoofer, since it's going in the same cabinet as the one that fried a few weeks ago. (although when I mentioned I was going to look at new ones I did get the comment "I hope the new one will be smaller than the old one"...that was followed by hysterical laughter on my part :rofl: ) The main issue is my old speaker stands...apparently cinder blocks and MDF doesn't fit with the decor 8O

**wrz0170** · 03 February 2006, 10:57 Friday

Originally posted by tylerb2002

Luckily, the wife already approved the subwoofer, since it's going in the same cabinet as the one that fried a few weeks ago. (although when I mentioned I was going to look at new ones I did get the comment "I hope the new one will be smaller than the old one"...that was followed by hysterical laughter on my part :rofl: ) The main issue is my old speaker stands...apparently cinder blocks and MDF doesn't fit with the decor 8O

I got the same thing. "I hope it's smaller than the old one". My old one was a stock JBL. As I said in my first couple of postings of this thread, it was big, it was ugly and always sounded like a sick cow. Zero highs and lows.

My sub is 18" cube for reference. Add another inch or so to height when you factor in the spikes.

You could always slap some primer and some black textured paint to the cinder blocks and MDF :B

**---k---** · 03 February 2006, 11:30 Friday

Originally posted by tylerb2002

Luckily, the wife already approved the subwoofer, since it's going in the same cabinet as the one that fried a few weeks ago. (although when I mentioned I was going to look at new ones I did get the comment "I hope the new one will be smaller than the old one"...that was followed by hysterical laughter on my part :rofl: ) The main issue is my old speaker stands...apparently cinder blocks and MDF doesn't fit with the decor 8O

I have that exact same problem! My wife HATES my painted black cinder block/MDF entertainment center. Absolutely hates. I've been able to keep it alive for the past five years of marrige by taking her to Ethan Allen and showing her how much what she wants would cost, or by promising a new one when we get a big screen TV.

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