...but there are some Eclipse 8200 drivers on Ebay right now for around $200. 12" LMT with about 35mm xmax, verified by a Klippel test run by an independent guy on another forum. Not my ebay sale or anything, not affiliated in anyway, just thought I'd throw this out there in case people wanted LMT performance at half the cost that TC is selling them for. This guy is probably unauthorized, but I don't know for sure.