Rotel 1066 wish list.

**JKohn** · 09 June 2002, 13:42 Sunday

I agree with everything from Andrew's list, and would also add the following:

1) Pressing the "Display" button on the remote should show at least some basic information on the LCD, such as current sound format and volume, etc

2) It would be nice if you could some things using just the LCD without having to navigate the OSD menu (which is not even visible for many due to component sources). For instance, if there were discrete remote codes I could use to get into the Test Tone setup, that would be nice. I would also like to be able to the parameters for DPL2-Music without going into the OSD menu.

3) It would nice to have discrete On/Off codes for Cinema EQ. I would prefer this setting to always get set to "off" when I turn things on, and then I could activate it for material where it's needed and not worry about remembering to turn it back off later.

Jeff Kohn

http://home.houston.rr.com/jeffkohn

**Nicholas Renter** · 09 June 2002, 14:48 Sunday

I wish there was a way to disable most of the DSP surround modes. The only 2 I will ever use is 5 Channel Stereo and 7 Channel Stereo. If I select the DSP modes from the front panel, I have to wade through far too many options before getting to the one that I want.

Also, I'd like to see a 4 Channel Stereo and a 6 Channel stereo option that would automatically disable the center speaker and allow HDCD to utilize 4 or 6 speakers. Right now, for me to listen to 4 Channel stereo, I have to go to the speaker setup and remove my center channel.

I would also like to have an easier way to figure out what version of software is installed on my unit.

**JohnSC** · 09 June 2002, 19:42 Sunday

This is a great idea for a thread. It would be great to see Rotel act on the suggestions on this thread.

I would love to see the following features (Those above are also good):

1. A volume level (number) next to the bar graph on the OSD.

2. The ability to turn the LCD display on/off. This would be useful as it can be bright in darkened room. I am not sure if this can be controlled by software though.

3. This might be the most difficult but how about different speaker settings for each surround mode ie. you could set the speakers to small for DD or DTS and large for 2 channel music and have these settings remembered so you can set them and forget them!

John

**markkjr** · 12 June 2002, 11:12 Wednesday

I agree with John, I would like to see a volume number next to the bar graph on the OSD. Direct codes to the surround modes would also be good. Better instructions on the RS232 control would be nice but I am working with AMX so maybe they can help me there...

-Mark
Home Theater Specialist
www.digitalvortex.com

**Kevin C Brown** · 13 June 2002, 02:59 Thursday

Analog (or really high quality digital) bass management on the 5.1 analog input.

OSD shouldn't be necessary to config the unit. Should only need the pre/pro's display.

Better DACs and ADCs (24/192).

The 1st is why I'm still headed to Outlaw...

**Bruce** · 14 June 2002, 13:50 Friday

My number one on the wish list;

#1 ) Triple bass management like the Outlaw 950.

Bruce
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**Shane Martin** · 16 June 2002, 16:14 Sunday

I don't post here much but the Rotel pro is catching my eye alot and perhaps they will "fix" and issue that is present and that is the lack of decent bandwidth to switch Component video(especially hidef properly). I'm not sure who their engineers are but they need to realize that 10mhz won't cut the mustard. It needs to be near 100.

**Nicholas Renter** · 19 June 2002, 18:55 Wednesday

I hate to be picky, but I feel that the autodetect of the surround format is awfully slow. I use my DVD player for CD audio, and I usually have to restart the audio CD because I miss the first second of material.

Criticisms aside, this really is a great piece of hardware. It's even better when you know you have a open dialog with the manufacturer. Even better than that is knowing that they can send you a software update to address your concerns.

Thanks Rotel!!!

**Nicholas Renter** · 19 June 2002, 19:00 Wednesday

Erik, I hope you don't mind me quoting you:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?postid=780504#post780504

Yesterday I e-mailed technical support with some questions and I actually got CALLED back! Yes, by phone! Tim said he'd rather talk to me personally to make sure all my questions were answered instead of spending lengthy e-mail correspondence back and forth.

Also I told him it would be great to have the ROTEL XS processing mode for 6.1/7.1 show up on the LCD like other modes do. Ya know, the scrolling DTS-ES, Dolby Digital-EX, etc...because right now it's active when you have a center back speaker(s) unless overriden with DTS-ES or another "flagged" disc. But the LCD doesn't tell you it's Rotel XS is active...he said that was a great idea and will tell the Rotel head dudes about it.

If I was a bettin' man I'd say that upgrade will happen along with these:

1. Speaker distance for setup instead of millisecond delay
2. Ability to remove "record out" from LCD
3. And volume on remote LCD screen if it does not require a new remote

It will be exciting to see what they bring us next!

E

Along with the above, how about just giving us full THX Ultra II certification?

**mml7** · 19 June 2002, 19:12 Wednesday

Originally posted by Nicholas Renter

I hate to be picky, but I feel that the autodetect of the surround format is awfully slow. I use my DVD player for CD audio, and I usually have to restart the audio CD because I miss the first second of material.

Nicholas-

What type of DVD player are you using with your 1066? The first DVD player I had hooked up was an old Sony DVP-S500 model that I had connected via coax. Everytime I paused a movie or skipped a track, I'd lose a split second of dialogue. I've since replaced the Sony with a Panasonic RP-62 (btw- nice progressive scan DVD player for the money!) and all my problems with lost dialogue went away.

mike

**mml7** · 19 June 2002, 19:23 Wednesday

Things that I'd like to see changed with the 1066: The remote! The layout is really terrible and non-intuitive.

For example:

- Why do I have to drop the remote cover everytime I want to switch inputs or run a macro?
- Where are the > (Fwd Scan) transport controls for CD/DVD players?
- Why is the front panel of the 1066 labeled "Video 1, Video 2, etc.." and the remote labeled "DVD, Sat, VCR, AV1, etc"?

mike

(Why didn't Rotel chose a better learning remote like the Home Theater Master MX-500?)

**mml7** · 19 June 2002, 19:26 Wednesday

Originally posted by Andrew Pratt

15) The ability to turn the LCD display on/off. This would be useful as it can be bright in darkened room. I am not sure if this can be controlled by software though.

Andrew-

You can turn off the LCD display by holding the "M/Menu/OSD" button down on the remote for 5 seconds. The display will turn on momentarily when you make any changes, such as raising/lowering the volume.

mike

**Nicholas Renter** · 19 June 2002, 19:40 Wednesday

I'm currently running a Denon DVD-2500. I probably could use an upgrade, but since I just went through an upgrade cycle (RSP-1066, RMB-1095, RQ-970BX, RT-1080), the DVD player has to wait.

**Andrew Pratt** · 19 June 2002, 22:15 Wednesday

Thanks Mike for the display option. It would still be nice to be able to turn it off or at least dim it though in my current set up it doesn't bother me to much.

**Nicholas Renter** · 19 June 2002, 22:44 Wednesday

Here are some more ideas:

1) Increase the number of characters you can use for input labels
2) Increase the granularity of the sub crossover
3) Have global settings for each surround mode:
3a) Speaker configuration
3b) Sub crossover
3c) Delay
3d) Test tones / speaker levels
4) Configuration options on the DSP music modes (delay, EQ, etc.)
5) Make system configuration changes via the "System Status" screen
6) Give us a way to directly change surround modes via the numeric keypad

And maybe send a kick-back to all the people posting these great suggestions. Perhaps a RB-1090 with a pair of B&W Nautilus 802s.

**JKohn** · 19 June 2002, 23:25 Wednesday

I'd like to see discrete remote codes for the DTS:Neo-Music and DTS:Neo-Cinema. Although Andrew has come up with a Pronto macro for putting the 1066 in DTS:Neo mode, that method doesn't allow you to control whether it's in Music or Cinema mode.

Jeff Kohn

http://home.houston.rr.com/jeffkohn

**JKohn** · 21 June 2002, 20:19 Friday

I also want to emphasize item 4 in Andrew's list up top. Being able to force DTS-ES decoding is very desireable, because some DTS-ES Matrix discs are not properly flagged and you end up only getting XS decoding. Disney's Atlantis is a good example of this: I actually prefer the DD-EX soundtrack to the DTS soundtrack without ES processing.

Jeff Kohn

http://home.houston.rr.com/jeffkohn

**Nicholas Renter** · 29 June 2002, 10:08 Saturday

...and I'd like to be able to download the latest version of the firmware without sending a e-mail to Rotel support. Let me with register with Rotel, log in to their web site, and download away.

Mike (Rotel), you'll be getting an e-mail from me (along with a bjillion other 1066 owners) on Monday.

**Andrew Pratt** · 29 June 2002, 10:40 Saturday

I agree with the last one...Rotel has such a great site already why not simply post the firmware there.

**marcuslf** · 02 July 2002, 10:33 Tuesday

I would really, really like to see a future upgrade include an easier way to control whether the CB speaker is on or not. I really like the rear surround in movies, but I'm not liking it so much for music.

I was listening to a DTS demo CD with Yesterday, Boyz 2 Men. With the center back off, the voices in surrounds were very clear. With the CB on, they faded somewhat, and were no longer as distinct.

Right now, you have to wade through the menus to disable the CB speaker. There are two things that would make this ALOT easier -- either a direct code for disabling all CB processing (like XS, EX, or ES), or a direct code to simply turn the CB on/off.

My second priority upgrade would be a triple-crossover.

Other than that, I'm loving my 1066!!!

**Andrew Pratt** · 02 July 2002, 14:41 Tuesday

I just received an email from Rotel that I'm sure many of you will find interesting....

I'll paraphrase their response to keep things simple.

They reconize the video bandwidth isn't high enough and they are looking into their options. If a "fix" can be retrofitted they'll consider setting something up where we can send in our units to be upgraded if not it will be included in the 1066's big brother. They claim the 1066 should handle 740P without any problem and that many people will simply use their TV's inputs anyway but it is a valid concern and they're listening.

Rotel is working on a replacement for HyperTerminal to update their firmware but progamming time is limited while they work on firmware issues.
* as an aside note Legarrie and I presently working on a replacement application myself so if any other VB coders want to help please let me know.

Discrete codes are only available for PLII Music, PLII Cinema, 5 channel and 7 channel stereo since they are running low on unique IR codes for this system. Cinema EQ is toggle only unfortunatly. Rotel plans on adding these to a new remote this fall. (not sure if the 1066's remote will get these changes or not..I'll ask)

They've agreed on a method to display the volume on the LCD display and remove the rec out...they just need to reprogram the firmware (great news!)

They commented that some of the things on our wish list aren't possible from a processing stand point from the processor in the 1066 but they could be available in the 1066's big brother. It seems for now there's a few things they will be able to fix shortly while others either aren't possible or may require new hardware. On the bright side at least we're helping shape the next processor which should be a dandy

**efarstad** · 02 July 2002, 15:05 Tuesday

Great news Anrew! Thanks for sharing and more importantly thanks for spearheading this effort! :T

Did you discuss the Rotel XS coming up on the LCD when engaged just like DD-EX does? I know it is if it shows DD but scrolling Rotel XS would be much cooler! 8)

ALSO WISH LIST:

New remote will be back-compatible with 1066!!!!

E

The Norwegian A/V Nut!
E-Cinema

**Andrew Pratt** · 02 July 2002, 16:03 Tuesday

Erik they're well awear of that request as well so yes I assume when they take care of the LCD display request that one will also be included.

**efarstad** · 02 July 2002, 16:22 Tuesday

:T

E

The Norwegian A/V Nut!
E-Cinema

**markkjr** · 02 July 2002, 17:57 Tuesday

Any word on the volume number on the OSD?

-Mark
Home Theater Specialist
www.digitalvortex.com

**Andrew Pratt** · 02 July 2002, 20:08 Tuesday

Yes they now know how they'er going to dothe volume on the OSD so its only a matter of time before it shows up in the firmware.

**Tony Lai** · 02 July 2002, 22:21 Tuesday

Could I ask this volume number be set as unity gain (ie. -64 to 0 to +10)?

I also ask some basic signal analysis like "dts 5.1 768k" or "Dolby Digital Surround EX 448k" or "2ch PCM 16/48 1,536k" etc. etc. when detected.

T.

**markkjr** · 10 July 2002, 07:38 Wednesday

Andrew, can you find out from Rotel what discrete commands are available to the RS232 port that are not from the IR port. I have emailed them but they are not getting back to me.

And I like what Tony requests above.

-Mark
Home Theater Specialist
www.digitalvortex.com

**Andrew Pratt** · 10 July 2002, 09:40 Wednesday

I'll see what I can find out. I know there's a document on their web site here that lists most of what you can do...

**markkjr** · 12 July 2002, 07:35 Friday

Originally posted by JKohn

I'd like to see discrete remote codes for the DTS:Neo-Music and DTS:Neo-Cinema. Although Andrew has come up with a Pronto macro for putting the 1066 in DTS:Neo mode, that method doesn't allow you to control whether it's in Music or Cinema mode.

Jeff, the RS232 port does allow for direct access to the different DTS: Neo modes. I am not sure what other commands are available on the RS232 port that are not on the IR port but I am investigating and as soon as I find them all I will post.

-Mark
Home Theater Specialist
www.digitalvortex.com

**dali** · 12 July 2002, 16:02 Friday

Hello!

My wish is that it would be possible to have individual EQ (bass, treble) settings for each channel. That would make it easier to adjust tonal quality if you have speakers from different manufacturers.

My center speaker is a lot "sharper" than my fronts, can't do anything about it ... yet ...

**markkjr** · 15 July 2002, 08:10 Monday

Right now, you have to wade through the menus to disable the CB speaker. There are two things that would make this ALOT easier -- either a direct code for disabling all CB processing (like XS, EX, or ES), or a direct code to simply turn the CB on/off.

I also would like to be able to turn off XS processing and just use plain old 5.1

Also the DTS-ES force would be great.

-Mark
Home Theater Specialist
www.digitalvortex.com

**JerryIII** · 17 July 2002, 10:54 Wednesday

I would like to see dolby headphone added.

Jerry

Click here to see my HT pics

**SaNdOkAn** · 18 July 2002, 15:48 Thursday

Dunno if someone already mentioned it but here we go:

It would be great if every input had his own volumecontrol like the surround thingy.

When i play a dvd a have my volume on 65 when listening to the radio on 25 so when i switch between these inputs without lowering volume a get deaf

I hope u agree with my input

Greatz

**Andrew Pratt** · 18 July 2002, 16:02 Thursday

that would be very handy

**mml7** · 18 July 2002, 17:37 Thursday

Originally posted by JerryIII

I would like to see dolby headphone added.

Jerry,

What is "dolby headphone"? How could it be used with the RSP-1066 given its lack of a headphone output?

**JerryIII** · 19 July 2002, 08:48 Friday

mml7,

DOH!!! It would be extremely difficult to incorporate Dolby Headphone without a headphome jack!

ops: My unit should be available for pick up on Monday and I was not aware that there wasn't one.

Dolby Headphone simulates surround sound in headphones. It is truly amazing. If you own the Pearl Harbor DVD there is a separate Dolby Headphone track that you can listen to. Put some headphones on and give it a try. I know that the new Sherwood pre/pro will have this feature.

Jerry

Click here to see my HT pics

**JohnSC** · 20 July 2002, 17:39 Saturday

Andrew,

As posted over at HTF.

I have an improvement that I hope is able to be made via a software upgrade. Due to my setup this would be my number one request if I only had a choice of one improvement!

On the Sub Setup menu where you can set the sub level for each of the sound formats, instead of having 'min' as the lowest setting, why not have the option of turning it 'off'?

For music, I have it set to 'min' but I still get a slight signal coming through the sub that I would prefer was not present at all.

Do you think this is possible?

John :idea:

**Andrew Pratt** · 21 July 2002, 18:12 Sunday

Jerry that's another good suggestion. I'll make sure Rotel see's these latest requests.

**Andrew Pratt** · 24 July 2002, 22:59 Wednesday

a little birdie told me we might be getting another update sooner rather then later this fall...I didn't get any details yet but I'm working on it

**Nicholas Renter** · 25 July 2002, 14:08 Thursday

Good...I've yet to hear anything about the bug I reported.

**Andrew Pratt** · 29 July 2002, 12:08 Monday

I'd love to see a switched outlet on the next Rotel pre amp. Given my problems with the amp triggers having a switched outlet would allow me to use the wall wart that I used on my Sony pre amp...

**JKohn** · 29 July 2002, 15:05 Monday

I don't know if this is possible with a firmware update (actually I kind of doubt it is), but it can't hurt to ask.

I would love to be able to set my mains as large or small in a per-soundmode basis. IE, set them to small for DD/DTS, but for 2-channel stereo have them set to large with no x-over and no subwoofer. I've seen some people talk about setting the sub to "min" for 2-channel, but that's not really the same if your speakers are set to "small", because you're losing bass below the x-over point.

Jeff Kohn

http://home.houston.rr.com/jeffkohn

**SaNdOkAn** · 03 August 2002, 04:43 Saturday

Dunno if posted yet but i would like some sort of direct modus as in sterio without subwoofer besides the 2 channel stereo modus.

Cause whenever i want to listen music i have to turn off my subwoofer.

Greetz Sandokan

Rotel 1066 wish list.

Rotel 1066 wish list.

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