do you know your schiit from shinola?

[Alaric]

I don't disagree on the VPI at all. The Music Hall was just an easy find for me while posting because it happened to be the first one I thought of. Lazy, more than anything.

[Hdale85]

As nice as the Music Hall stuff is, at that sort of price range I think I'd be looking for a VPI Scout but honestly that point I imagine there are a lot of options out there and I'm sure everyone has a different opinion on which is the best.

[Alaric]

Wow...that's a nice turntable, although $2500 is outside my reach sadly.

Not only out of my reach, it's out of my line of sight. LOL I clicked on their ad here not long ago and looked around their website. They are extremely fond of their merchandise based on the prices I saw. I'm not sure that $2500 wouldn't get you better sound somewhere else. At $2395, this http://www.needledoctor.com/Music-Ha...2&category=351 is no slouch. Then again, the hipster market may place a higher premium on aesthetics than I would. I tend to be more of a form follows function guy. That said, the Shinola is a beautiful TT, and if I could easily afford I might be tempted to display it prominently. I certainly wouldn't complain to Santa if one showed up under my tree.

I love this thread title. Something very similar went through my mind when I first saw the ad at the top of the page. It's the main reason I clicked on it.

[wkhanna]

VPI you mean

fixed....ops:

[Hdale85]

addendum to the first post:

VIP is also an american based, home-bread & based manufacturer from New Jersey.

VPI you mean

[Hdale85]

Wow...that's a nice turntable, although $2500 is outside my reach sadly.

[wkhanna]

addendum to the first post:

VPI is also an american based, home-bread & based manufacturer from New Jersey.

[wkhanna]

Etymology of "you don't know shit from Shinola":

A colloquialism which dates back to the early 1940s in the United States, sometimes ended with "that's why your shoes don't shine". Shinola was a popular brand of shoe polish, which had a color and texture not unlike feces.

like Schiit, Shinola is a US company (from Detroit) building its cred on 'american made', from sourced materials to labor .
they started with watches.
their latest venture is turn tables.
specifically, the Runwell Turntable
well, i would hope it does.....

fact is they do not know shit from Shinola when it comes to designing analog spinners.
another fact is that they where smart enough to realize it when they decided to jump on the current analog-resurgence bandwagon.
so they went to VPI for design help along with advice on "local" outsourcing of subcontractors & materials.
the end result is what i will call a re-badged VPI turn table that appears different from anything else VPI offers, at least on the outside.

at $2.5k, it actually may deliver equivalency at its price point.
but that is just a guess for now.....
maybe i will get to hear one some day?
i will be seeing (drinking) with VPI president Mat Weisfeld at this year's Capital Audiofest, so i will get the full story then.