mono bridging classe ca-2200

[mclasse]

I currently have classe cp-500 and the classe ca-2200 with 802D speakers.

I intend to purchase an additional ca-2200 amplifier. However, the cp-500 only has one balanced and onbalanced output. As a result it is in theory not possible to connect two ca-2200 to the cp-500. However, someone informed me that it is possible to mono bridge the ca-2200 so that both ca-2200 operate in a mono mode. As a result it would be possible to connect both amplifiers.

Has anyone experience with this, how does it work and are the sound advantages significant to one stereo connected ca-2200.

[Birdy]

I currently have classe cp-500 and the classe ca-2200 with 802D speakers.

I intend to purchase an additional ca-2200 amplifier. However, the cp-500 only has one balanced and onbalanced output. As a result it is in theory not possible to connect two ca-2200 to the cp-500. However, someone informed me that it is possible to mono bridge the ca-2200 so that both ca-2200 operate in a mono mode. As a result it would be possible to connect both amplifiers.

Has anyone experience with this, how does it work and are the sound advantages significant to one stereo connected ca-2200.

You will have to tell me how it sounds compared to your actual config.
have quasi the same config ( except CP , bought a second CA 2200 but will be able to listen to the 2 CA2200 only in the summer; so I'm a bit impatient....

[Glen B]

Unlike the legacy models, the Delta series amps are not bridgeable. They are not spec'd for bridged mono operation and have no provision for doing so.

[planitismetal]

Unlike the legacy models, the Delta series amps are not bridgeable. They are not spec'd for bridged mono operation and have no provision for doing so.

So, if I want to buy a couple of B&W 800D, I have to sell my CA-2200 and buy 2 CA-M400?? Current system SSP-800, CA-2200, B&W805s...

[planitismetal]

Unlike the legacy models, the Delta series amps are not bridgeable. They are not spec'd for bridged mono operation and have no provision for doing so.

Posted by fredBelgium





How can be a connection like this?? He had used 2 CA-2200... I'm very intrested about this if it will be a new upgrade...

[style]

Hi mclasse,

with the CP500 you have a only obne (1) input) well, you need a y adaptor I think to connect the 2 CA2200 on the pre CP500.
the CP700 have 2 input = dont need nothing, no adaptor.

the bi amplig horizontal or vertical have nothing to do with or question or???


style

[planitismetal]

No... Nothing to do... I made a mistake... My previous post wasn't an answer to the initial question... ops:

[style]

well, the point is the buy a Y adapter and a new CA2200 and make a bi.amp. vertical......


but I think that with 2x CAM400 i much better vs. the bi.amp....

is a personal choice...
Style

[planitismetal]

I agree for buying 2 Ca-M400 for the 800D but I will have to sell my loving CA-2200 :cry: :cry:

[wettou]

Yes all Delta Series amplifiers can be Bridged

Straight from Classé, Thank you Tom

Delta Series amplifiers Bridging Procedure (excluding the CAM-400)
Although bridging amplifiers is a simple procedure, we do not recommend that it be performed by anyone except trained technicians. Classé cannot be liable for the consequences of Bridging performed by anyone except their own staff.

The following procedure illustrates how to bridge any two Delta Series amplifier channels into a single channel.

BRIDGING PROCEDURE
1. Ensure that the amplifier(s)/Pre-amp/Processor are OFF and disconnected from all power supplies
2. Using a good gauge speaker cable (preferably 10 gauge or better) connect the amplifier’s negative outputs of the 2 channels that you want to bridge.
3. Take the LEFT speaker cable and connect the positive end to Channel 1 and the negative end to Channel 2.
4. Repeat as necessary for the other channels/ amplifiers
5. Using the XLR “Y” cable, connect the MALE NON-inverted end to the amplifier’s CH1 XLR input, and the MALE INVERTED to the amplifier’s CH2 XLR input.
6. Repeat as necessary for the other channels/amplifiers.
7. Take the female end of the XLR “Y” cable and connect it to the LEFT XLR output on your Pre-amp/ Processor.
8. Repeat as necessary, connecting the female end of the XLR “Y” cable to the appropriate input on your Pre-amp/ Processor for the other channels/amplifiers.

Note on Bridging Delta Multichannel Amplifiers:
When bridging multi channel Delta amplifiers the best sound is delivered by bridging the channels that are physically closest to each other (channel 1 with channel 4; channel 3 with channel 5). See the pictures below:

[planitismetal]

Yes all Delta Series amplifiers can be Bridged

Straight from Classé, Thank you Tom

Delta Series amplifiers Bridging Procedure (excluding the CAM-400)
Although bridging amplifiers is a simple procedure, we do not recommend that it be performed by anyone except trained technicians. Classé cannot be liable for the consequences of Bridging performed by anyone except their own staff.

The following procedure illustrates how to bridge any two Delta Series amplifier channels into a single channel.

BRIDGING PROCEDURE
1. Ensure that the amplifier(s)/Pre-amp/Processor are OFF and disconnected from all power supplies
2. Using a good gauge speaker cable (preferably 10 gauge or better) connect the amplifier’s negative outputs of the 2 channels that you want to bridge.
3. Take the LEFT speaker cable and connect the positive end to Channel 1 and the negative end to Channel 2.
4. Repeat as necessary for the other channels/ amplifiers
5. Using the XLR “Y” cable, connect the MALE NON-inverted end to the amplifier’s CH1 XLR input, and the MALE INVERTED to the amplifier’s CH2 XLR input.
6. Repeat as necessary for the other channels/amplifiers.
7. Take the female end of the XLR “Y” cable and connect it to the LEFT XLR output on your Pre-amp/ Processor.
8. Repeat as necessary, connecting the female end of the XLR “Y” cable to the appropriate input on your Pre-amp/ Processor for the other channels/amplifiers.

Note on Bridging Delta Multichannel Amplifiers:
When bridging multi channel Delta amplifiers the best sound is delivered by bridging the channels that are physically closest to each other (channel 1 with channel 4; channel 3 with channel 5). See the pictures below:

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THANK YOU WETTOU
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[wettou]

YES YES YES THANK YOU WETTOU

You are very welcome Classé rocks, Tom especially is an outstanding customer service engineer

I wish other brands like Sony, Denon...would be as responsive with their customers.

[ChrisssB]

You are very welcome Classé rocks, Tom especially is an outstanding customer service engineer
I wish other brands like Sony, Denon...would be as responsive with their customers.

I very much agree with you...everytime I had to ask something, Classé customer service proved to be outstanding :T

[planitismetal]

I very much agree with you...everytime I had to ask something, Classé customer service proved to be outstanding :T

2 times I have had a communication with Tom McConville via emails, and it was like chating...! And everything in this company works like this! My dealer (Classe distributor also), has the same reactions!

@wettou:
As for these brands you are talking about, they don't care about that,because they always find buyers! From the moment that they begin selling at 50$, they will find buyers! If Classe and any other respectable brand won't have an after sale assistance, will anybody continue buying from these brands???

[style]

Hallo,

but with the SSP isf you have a 5.1 system you need the Y adapter?

the CD700 have more input and don't need Y adapter well???

is with the SSP not the same??

Style

[Glen B]

2 times I have had a communication with Tom McConville via emails, and it was like chating...! And everything in this company works like this! My dealer (Classe distributor also), has the same reactions!

Kudos should also go to Shane Kea and Vladimir Savic, both of whom work with Tom in different areas of reponsibility. I've had multiple communications with these two individuals and they've both also been extremely helpful.

[planitismetal]

So, if I want to buy B&W 800D, Is better with 2xCA-M400 or with 2 CA-2200 monobridged???Has anybody any acoustic experience on this???

[Glen B]

Can you borrow another CA-2200 to compare stereo versus bridged mode ? Then you can drive one speaker with a single channel of one amp and the other speaker with the other amp in bridged mode, and compare the sound of the two.

[wettou]

So, if I want to buy B&W 800D, Is better with 2xCA-M400 or with 2 CA-2200 monobridged???Has anybody any acoustic experience on this???

It should be a wash,

2 CA-M400 will be easier one connection per speaker per pre/pro and no Y connectors sound should be equivalent :lol:

[gideonl]

Do you still have a picture of this process? Would be much obliged!

Yes all Delta Series amplifiers can be Bridged

Straight from Classé, Thank you Tom

Delta Series amplifiers Bridging Procedure (excluding the CAM-400)
Although bridging amplifiers is a simple procedure, we do not recommend that it be performed by anyone except trained technicians. Classé cannot be liable for the consequences of Bridging performed by anyone except their own staff.

The following procedure illustrates how to bridge any two Delta Series amplifier channels into a single channel.

BRIDGING PROCEDURE
1. Ensure that the amplifier(s)/Pre-amp/Processor are OFF and disconnected from all power supplies
2. Using a good gauge speaker cable (preferably 10 gauge or better) connect the amplifier’s negative outputs of the 2 channels that you want to bridge.
3. Take the LEFT speaker cable and connect the positive end to Channel 1 and the negative end to Channel 2.
4. Repeat as necessary for the other channels/ amplifiers
5. Using the XLR “Y” cable, connect the MALE NON-inverted end to the amplifier’s CH1 XLR input, and the MALE INVERTED to the amplifier’s CH2 XLR input.
6. Repeat as necessary for the other channels/amplifiers.
7. Take the female end of the XLR “Y” cable and connect it to the LEFT XLR output on your Pre-amp/ Processor.
8. Repeat as necessary, connecting the female end of the XLR “Y” cable to the appropriate input on your Pre-amp/ Processor for the other channels/amplifiers.

Note on Bridging Delta Multichannel Amplifiers:
When bridging multi channel Delta amplifiers the best sound is delivered by bridging the channels that are physically closest to each other (channel 1 with channel 4; channel 3 with channel 5). See the pictures below:

[canAre]

Yes, picture of this process?
Please!

Eric