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  • leej
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 82

    Now that's an entertainment center!
    Lee J

    Denon 4311ci; Rotel RB-1080; OPPO BDP-83 Universal Disk/Media Player
    B&W 703 mains; B&W HTM2 Center; B&W CDM SNT-Surr; B&W CDM1nt-back; Pair of Rythmik F15 Subs

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    • Freddie40
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 152

      Originally posted by wettou
      Nice, Very Nice
      Crystal Clear Music Tweaked Mac Mini / Yosemite -> JRiver 20 -> Ayre QB9DSD -> Bryston BP26DA -> Bryston 4BSST2 -> B&W 802Di | Transparent Reference XLRs, Transparent Super Speaker Cable, Maple Shade USB cable, Crystal Clear Music Power Cords

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      • dhany
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2006
        • 11

        Nice system

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        • sgtjim57
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 85

          Impressive, far better than nice!
          Sony Bravia OLED A1E 55"
          SVS SB 2000 X 2
          Denon X4000 (Looking to upgrade due to 4K, ATMOS, DTSX)
          Oppo BDP 93
          Apple TV 4K
          B & W N804 Mains
          B & W 603 Rear surrounds
          B & W LCR 600 Center
          B & W CDS6 (Not in use)
          Sony TA N77ES (Not in use)

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          • Mikael
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 379

            Hi here is my first post in the B&W forum,long time member in the Rotel forum. Here is a couple of pictures of my new setup, with my brand new B&W CT7.5 speakers, and wow do they sound great.
            Attached Files

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            • madmac
              Moderator Emeritus
              • Aug 2010
              • 3122

              Meeee (Bugs bunny voice)........I wonder what all the poooor people are listening to nowadays!!!
              Dan Madden :T

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              • Grzywa
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 18

                New to the forum.

                Aww well, I'm really impressed with what I saw here. It has inspired me to sign in here.

                Recently I bought set of B&W speakers and I must say it was a long search and hours and hours of demos... but finally B&W's won (even with more expensive options)

                Hopefully by end of this week I'll clean up my setup so I'll be able to take some pictures for this thread.

                Regards !
                Audio
                Source/Display
                Cabling/Power
                AV: Onkyo TX-NR818 + BT
                F: 683 (Bi-amp)
                C: Boston VR12
                S: 685
                Sub: 2x SVS SB13-Ultra
                12TB Media server (XBMC Database)
                Intel NUC i3 XBMC Media clients
                PS3 Slim SSD
                xBox 360 Slim
                D-Link WiDi
                Samsung 51" PS51E6500
                Optoma HD33
                Gigabit Cisco SLM Switches
                HDMI - all 1.4a 1m to 15m long
                Fornt LFQ: 4mm OFC solid core + thin fibres
                Front HFQ, Center: Belden Audio 4mm OFC - med fibres
                Rear: 2,5mm OFC (15m)
                CyberPower UPS (Sine wave)

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                • Rod#S
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 474

                  Originally posted by Grzywa
                  Aww well, I'm really impressed with what I saw here. It has inspired me to sign in here.

                  Recently I bought set of B&W speakers and I must say it was a long search and hours and hours of demos... but finally B&W's won (even with more expensive options)

                  Hopefully by end of this week I'll clean up my setup so I'll be able to take some pictures for this thread.

                  Regards !
                  Congrats and welcome to the B&W family
                  B&W 800 Diamonds (L/R), HTM2 Diamond (C), 802 Diamonds (SL/SR), Paradigm Signature Sub 25 (LFE), Reference Servo 15a x 2 (Stereo subs), Lexicon MC-12Bv5EQ SSP, Bryston 28B-SST2x 2, 7B-SST2x2, 4B-SST C Series, BDP-2, Oppo UDP-205, Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-150FD, Furman SPR-20i, IT-Reference, Eastlink Maestro PVR, Xbox One & 360, PS3, Siltech Golden Ridge II, Ruby Hill IIx2, 330ix2, Kimber Kable PK10 Gold, Tonic, PBJ, Cadence, HD19e, HD19, OPT-1, HDSW 4x1, Ixos 6003, Harmony 1000

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                  • PewterTA
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 2901

                    Wooo Hoooo welcome to the addiction!!! I mean Bowers and Wilkins Group!!!! Can't wait for the pictures!!!
                    Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                    -Dan

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                    • Grzywa
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 18

                      Originally posted by PewterTA
                      Wooo Hoooo welcome to the addiction!!! I mean Bowers and Wilkins Group!!!! Can't wait for the pictures!!!
                      I'm almost finished with setting up everything. Yesterday I finally installed projector screen. So if all goes well, I'll post my pics today.
                      Audio
                      Source/Display
                      Cabling/Power
                      AV: Onkyo TX-NR818 + BT
                      F: 683 (Bi-amp)
                      C: Boston VR12
                      S: 685
                      Sub: 2x SVS SB13-Ultra
                      12TB Media server (XBMC Database)
                      Intel NUC i3 XBMC Media clients
                      PS3 Slim SSD
                      xBox 360 Slim
                      D-Link WiDi
                      Samsung 51" PS51E6500
                      Optoma HD33
                      Gigabit Cisco SLM Switches
                      HDMI - all 1.4a 1m to 15m long
                      Fornt LFQ: 4mm OFC solid core + thin fibres
                      Front HFQ, Center: Belden Audio 4mm OFC - med fibres
                      Rear: 2,5mm OFC (15m)
                      CyberPower UPS (Sine wave)

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                      • Grzywa
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 18

                        Temp picture, temp setup

                        Ok, here is my quick photo (while watching movie with flash so sorry for quality)... I don't want to make detailed snaps until I'll finish setting all up. I moved to India only few months ago, and trust me it's not easy to aquire those kind of things. For everything there is a "guy" and there is no search engine to find him ;]. Not mention the prices that are sometimes twice what You would pay in EU. My heart bleeds with every buy... but today I found "Acoustic treatment Guy" that has access to auralex products so hopefully in few week's I'll be able to post some nice pictures of clean and proper setup.

                        Attached Files
                        Audio
                        Source/Display
                        Cabling/Power
                        AV: Onkyo TX-NR818 + BT
                        F: 683 (Bi-amp)
                        C: Boston VR12
                        S: 685
                        Sub: 2x SVS SB13-Ultra
                        12TB Media server (XBMC Database)
                        Intel NUC i3 XBMC Media clients
                        PS3 Slim SSD
                        xBox 360 Slim
                        D-Link WiDi
                        Samsung 51" PS51E6500
                        Optoma HD33
                        Gigabit Cisco SLM Switches
                        HDMI - all 1.4a 1m to 15m long
                        Fornt LFQ: 4mm OFC solid core + thin fibres
                        Front HFQ, Center: Belden Audio 4mm OFC - med fibres
                        Rear: 2,5mm OFC (15m)
                        CyberPower UPS (Sine wave)

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                        • Rod#S
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 474

                          Looks great, thanks for posting. :T
                          B&W 800 Diamonds (L/R), HTM2 Diamond (C), 802 Diamonds (SL/SR), Paradigm Signature Sub 25 (LFE), Reference Servo 15a x 2 (Stereo subs), Lexicon MC-12Bv5EQ SSP, Bryston 28B-SST2x 2, 7B-SST2x2, 4B-SST C Series, BDP-2, Oppo UDP-205, Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-150FD, Furman SPR-20i, IT-Reference, Eastlink Maestro PVR, Xbox One & 360, PS3, Siltech Golden Ridge II, Ruby Hill IIx2, 330ix2, Kimber Kable PK10 Gold, Tonic, PBJ, Cadence, HD19e, HD19, OPT-1, HDSW 4x1, Ixos 6003, Harmony 1000

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                          • mjb
                            Super Senior Member
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 1483

                            Grzywa, welcome to HTGUIDE, and the B&W club! Thats a nice looking setup you have.
                            - Mike

                            Main System:
                            B&W 802D, HTM2D, SCMS
                            Classé SSP-800, CA-2200, CA-5100

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                            • SPACEMANRICK
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2005
                              • 200

                              Awesome setup Grzywa, great to have more members from around the world!

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                              • Mikael
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 379

                                Very nice setup and welcome to the forum.

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                                • PewterTA
                                  Moderator
                                  • Nov 2004
                                  • 2901

                                  Looks awesome!!!!! How's the center and the L/Rs working as far as matching together. I'm sure there's a timbre mismatch as to be expected with the two different types of speakers....but sometimes they are close enough it's not worth getting the center of the same speaker line.

                                  Anyways... I don't think there's much "cleaning up" that's needed. It all looks good to me!!
                                  Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                                  -Dan

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                                  • Grzywa
                                    Junior Member
                                    • Apr 2013
                                    • 18

                                    Originally posted by PewterTA
                                    Looks awesome!!!!! How's the center and the L/Rs working as far as matching together. I'm sure there's a timbre mismatch as to be expected with the two different types of speakers....but sometimes they are close enough it's not worth getting the center of the same speaker line.

                                    Anyways... I don't think there's much "cleaning up" that's needed. It all looks good to me!!
                                    I think VR12 is a unique center speaker (google it up), it's detailed and clear for any voice (male, female, cartoon...). It has kind of natural sound that makes you think "...that's exactly how center should sound..." I think because of that it blends very well with most of the speakers. Other thing is that its sound quality is so good that 600 series center would be a "step back", I think... I would have to go for much higher center channel form B&W that would be again not matched with 683's.

                                    As for cleaning up - I like minimalistic view, no cables visible, everything symetric, etc... so there is much to do. Also there is no picture of back as there is a mess ;]


                                    Edit: Just to be clear - it's not a perfect match but it's also not a mismatch. It's that voices sounds so good on this center that HTM61 could not get even close(at least at demo in the shop).
                                    Audio
                                    Source/Display
                                    Cabling/Power
                                    AV: Onkyo TX-NR818 + BT
                                    F: 683 (Bi-amp)
                                    C: Boston VR12
                                    S: 685
                                    Sub: 2x SVS SB13-Ultra
                                    12TB Media server (XBMC Database)
                                    Intel NUC i3 XBMC Media clients
                                    PS3 Slim SSD
                                    xBox 360 Slim
                                    D-Link WiDi
                                    Samsung 51" PS51E6500
                                    Optoma HD33
                                    Gigabit Cisco SLM Switches
                                    HDMI - all 1.4a 1m to 15m long
                                    Fornt LFQ: 4mm OFC solid core + thin fibres
                                    Front HFQ, Center: Belden Audio 4mm OFC - med fibres
                                    Rear: 2,5mm OFC (15m)
                                    CyberPower UPS (Sine wave)

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                                    • audiogear
                                      Junior Member
                                      • Sep 2011
                                      • 20

                                      Very clean and nice setup Grzywa.
                                      Main: B&W 802Di, HTM2D, 805D, DB-1 sub, McIntosh 501(2), McIntosh MCD500 & C50, C2300, Elite SC09-TX, Oppo 105, Wadia 121/170, PS3, MacBook Pro/iPad, Samsung 63" 3D Plasma, Monster Power 7000MKII, ATV2, Audioquest Gibraltar/Cobra/USB cables.

                                      2-Channel: McIntosh MA6600, Peachtree iDAC, SF Cremona Auditor M, ATV2, Oppo 95, Elite 50" plasma, Monster 3600/AVS2000, Audioquest Cobras/Rocket 88s

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                                      • wettou
                                        Ultra Senior Member
                                        • May 2006
                                        • 3389

                                        I am thinking of selling the 802D speakers since i think that they are overkill for surround! PM me if interested
                                        Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                                        • BWLover
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Jan 2009
                                          • 552

                                          What version of the 802's do you have?
                                          Bowers & Wilkins 683 Speakers
                                          Rotel RB-1090 2 Channel Amp
                                          Rotel RC-1082 Stereo Pre Amp
                                          Rotel RCD-1072 CD Player
                                          Pro-Ject Debut Carbon w/ Ortofon 2M Red (sitting on a piece of slate supported by 3 "solid tech feet of silence" isolation feet)
                                          Rotel RLC-1040 Power Conditioner
                                          Shynyata Research SR-Z1 Power Outlet & Venom 3 Power Cords x 4
                                          Tara Labs RSC Vector 1 Speaker Cables & Interconnects
                                          Pioneer PDP-5070HD 50" Plasma
                                          Playstation 3
                                          Shaw HD PVR
                                          Primacoustic Room Treatments

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                                          • wettou
                                            Ultra Senior Member
                                            • May 2006
                                            • 3389

                                            Originally posted by BWLover
                                            What version of the 802's do you have?

                                            802D first version of the Diamond tweeter, I bought them five years ago
                                            Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                                            • Rod#S
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Oct 2010
                                              • 474

                                              So here are some initial shots of the 800's that arrived yesterday. I'll get a few more of my 802's in their new location.








                                              Last edited by Rod#S; 12 May 2013, 16:59 Sunday.
                                              B&W 800 Diamonds (L/R), HTM2 Diamond (C), 802 Diamonds (SL/SR), Paradigm Signature Sub 25 (LFE), Reference Servo 15a x 2 (Stereo subs), Lexicon MC-12Bv5EQ SSP, Bryston 28B-SST2x 2, 7B-SST2x2, 4B-SST C Series, BDP-2, Oppo UDP-205, Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-150FD, Furman SPR-20i, IT-Reference, Eastlink Maestro PVR, Xbox One & 360, PS3, Siltech Golden Ridge II, Ruby Hill IIx2, 330ix2, Kimber Kable PK10 Gold, Tonic, PBJ, Cadence, HD19e, HD19, OPT-1, HDSW 4x1, Ixos 6003, Harmony 1000

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                                              • wettou
                                                Ultra Senior Member
                                                • May 2006
                                                • 3389

                                                Originally posted by Rod#S
                                                So here are some initial shots of the 800's that arrived yesterday. I'll get a few more of my 802's in their new location.

                                                Nice
                                                Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                                                • Rod#S
                                                  Senior Member
                                                  • Oct 2010
                                                  • 474

                                                  Originally posted by wettou
                                                  Nice
                                                  Thank you
                                                  B&W 800 Diamonds (L/R), HTM2 Diamond (C), 802 Diamonds (SL/SR), Paradigm Signature Sub 25 (LFE), Reference Servo 15a x 2 (Stereo subs), Lexicon MC-12Bv5EQ SSP, Bryston 28B-SST2x 2, 7B-SST2x2, 4B-SST C Series, BDP-2, Oppo UDP-205, Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-150FD, Furman SPR-20i, IT-Reference, Eastlink Maestro PVR, Xbox One & 360, PS3, Siltech Golden Ridge II, Ruby Hill IIx2, 330ix2, Kimber Kable PK10 Gold, Tonic, PBJ, Cadence, HD19e, HD19, OPT-1, HDSW 4x1, Ixos 6003, Harmony 1000

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                                                  • Rod#S
                                                    Senior Member
                                                    • Oct 2010
                                                    • 474

                                                    Here are some more

                                                    800 and 802 hardware boxes - The Grey box is the 800 and the 2 black boxes are the 802's (1 for the spikes and the other for the mid range grill). I forgot to include the 800 grill box in this shot, see below.










                                                    800 mid range grill boxes. Interesting that the boxes are more plane than the 802 boxes


                                                    A shot of the right Servo 15a and LFE Sub 25


                                                    A different angle of the right Servo 15a and Sub 25


                                                    A peek at the left Servo 15a behind the 800


                                                    The left 802








                                                    The right 802






                                                    Last edited by Rod#S; 12 May 2013, 17:02 Sunday.
                                                    B&W 800 Diamonds (L/R), HTM2 Diamond (C), 802 Diamonds (SL/SR), Paradigm Signature Sub 25 (LFE), Reference Servo 15a x 2 (Stereo subs), Lexicon MC-12Bv5EQ SSP, Bryston 28B-SST2x 2, 7B-SST2x2, 4B-SST C Series, BDP-2, Oppo UDP-205, Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-150FD, Furman SPR-20i, IT-Reference, Eastlink Maestro PVR, Xbox One & 360, PS3, Siltech Golden Ridge II, Ruby Hill IIx2, 330ix2, Kimber Kable PK10 Gold, Tonic, PBJ, Cadence, HD19e, HD19, OPT-1, HDSW 4x1, Ixos 6003, Harmony 1000

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                                                    • PewterTA
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                      • 2901

                                                      Well I got my fill of porn for the next week or two....

                                                      THANKS! 8O

                                                      LOOKS AMAZING!!!!!!!!

                                                      I do have to admit on a couple of those pictures, you are right... they only look slightly bigger...then at other points they look a lot bigger.
                                                      Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                                                      -Dan

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                                                      • kcsun
                                                        Member
                                                        • Jan 2012
                                                        • 69

                                                        [QUOTE=

                                                        LOOKS AMAZING!!!!!!!!

                                                        I do have to admit on a couple of those pictures, you are right... they only look slightly bigger...then at other points they look a lot bigger.[/QUOTE]

                                                        I second that!!

                                                        Is the sound massively different now you have them in your own room?

                                                        kc
                                                        Arcam avr600, Sky HD 2Tb, Oppo 103D, Sony VPL-VW500ES, Phillips large Pronto pro remote
                                                        B&W 803Di speakers, B&W HTM2Di centre speaker, B&W 7NT in wall rear speakers, B&W ASW1000 Sub

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                                                        • BVLDARI
                                                          Member
                                                          • Dec 2012
                                                          • 58

                                                          Awesome Rod! Quick Q, on one of the pictures it looks like the finish/color of the 802 is significantly different than the finish on the 800. Is that just the light or is the finish actually not the same?

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                                                          • Rod#S
                                                            Senior Member
                                                            • Oct 2010
                                                            • 474

                                                            Originally posted by kcsun
                                                            I second that!!

                                                            Is the sound massively different now you have them in your own room?

                                                            kc

                                                            Thanks

                                                            Nope, not massively different, you can tell the 802's and 800's are cut from the same cloth, no doubt about it. The 800's project a bigger sense of size. By looks you could assume they would but if you look at the specs between them and the 802's they are ridiculously close and have the same sensitivity. The dual 10's do handle the bass better, it's just more noticeable, has a bit more authority. As a test, since I have my 802's crossed over at 50Hz and my 800's at 40Hz, I moved the 800's up to 50Hz and the notable difference was still present. Same with lowering the 802's to 40Hz, again the 800's just had a better handle on the low end. It's not huge like OMG these things are like subwoofers but most definitely there, obviously more apparent on more bass heavy audio so it is actually something I could see people not picking up on in an audition when comparing to the 802's. The mids are warmer and more open but again it's source dependant and could easily be missed in a rushed audition between them and the 802's.

                                                            So far just based on my limited time with them I can most certainly see why people are so split on these, with some saying they are indeed better then the 802's and others saying there is no difference.
                                                            B&W 800 Diamonds (L/R), HTM2 Diamond (C), 802 Diamonds (SL/SR), Paradigm Signature Sub 25 (LFE), Reference Servo 15a x 2 (Stereo subs), Lexicon MC-12Bv5EQ SSP, Bryston 28B-SST2x 2, 7B-SST2x2, 4B-SST C Series, BDP-2, Oppo UDP-205, Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-150FD, Furman SPR-20i, IT-Reference, Eastlink Maestro PVR, Xbox One & 360, PS3, Siltech Golden Ridge II, Ruby Hill IIx2, 330ix2, Kimber Kable PK10 Gold, Tonic, PBJ, Cadence, HD19e, HD19, OPT-1, HDSW 4x1, Ixos 6003, Harmony 1000

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                                                            • Rod#S
                                                              Senior Member
                                                              • Oct 2010
                                                              • 474

                                                              Originally posted by BVLDARI
                                                              Awesome Rod! Quick Q, on one of the pictures it looks like the finish/color of the 802 is significantly different than the finish on the 800. Is that just the light or is the finish actually not the same?
                                                              No, definitely the same color/finish however the 800's do seem to be a bit more glossy and smooth to the touch. I don't know why that one shot in particular shows the 802 as practically orange but it's definitely just something with the light and flash.
                                                              B&W 800 Diamonds (L/R), HTM2 Diamond (C), 802 Diamonds (SL/SR), Paradigm Signature Sub 25 (LFE), Reference Servo 15a x 2 (Stereo subs), Lexicon MC-12Bv5EQ SSP, Bryston 28B-SST2x 2, 7B-SST2x2, 4B-SST C Series, BDP-2, Oppo UDP-205, Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-150FD, Furman SPR-20i, IT-Reference, Eastlink Maestro PVR, Xbox One & 360, PS3, Siltech Golden Ridge II, Ruby Hill IIx2, 330ix2, Kimber Kable PK10 Gold, Tonic, PBJ, Cadence, HD19e, HD19, OPT-1, HDSW 4x1, Ixos 6003, Harmony 1000

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                                                              • Rod#S
                                                                Senior Member
                                                                • Oct 2010
                                                                • 474

                                                                Originally posted by kcsun
                                                                I second that!!

                                                                Is the sound massively different now you have them in your own room?

                                                                kc
                                                                Originally posted by Rod#S
                                                                Thanks

                                                                Nope, not massively different, you can tell the 802's and 800's are cut from the same cloth, no doubt about it. The 800's project a bigger sense of size. By looks you could assume they would but if you look at the specs between them and the 802's they are ridiculously close and have the same sensitivity. The dual 10's do handle the bass better, it's just more noticeable, has a bit more authority. As a test, since I have my 802's crossed over at 50Hz and my 800's at 40Hz, I moved the 800's up to 50Hz and the notable difference was still present. Same with lowering the 802's to 40Hz, again the 800's just had a better handle on the low end. It's not huge like OMG these things are like subwoofers but most definitely there, obviously more apparent on more bass heavy audio so it is actually something I could see people not picking up on in an audition when comparing to the 802's. The mids are warmer and more open but again it's source dependant and could easily be missed in a rushed audition between them and the 802's.

                                                                So far just based on my limited time with them I can most certainly see why people are so split on these, with some saying they are indeed better then the 802's and others saying there is no difference.
                                                                I posted some more impressions on another thread and figured I would post here as some of my initial impressions have changed. This is what I wrote:

                                                                I finally had some real quality time with the 800's today and I am very impressed. These things have some serious, serious bass capabilities when running full range and it's no wonder owners report not needing a subwoofer if using in a non home theater environment. I know 802 owners even run stereo without a sub and I can attest to them having very solid and tight bass but the 800's are definitely a step up. I know what the specs say and the 800's and 802's have ridiculously close numbers on paper but this is a phenomenon where you need to use your ears and forget about the specs because depending on the song you could easily be fooled into thinking a sub, or stereo subs were in the system. My 800's are in the exact same position that my 802's were and there is no mistaking the difference.

                                                                Moving onto the mids I find them to be very smooth, warm and fluid. they obviously posses the accuracy of the 802's but deliver it with a warmer presentation. I had reported after listening to the Focal Alto Utopia a few weeks back how warm and fluid the mids were compared to the 802's, the 800's are giving what I heard from the Alto's.

                                                                I'm practically equally as impressed with the surround experience the 800's and 802's give. As reported earlier the soundstage and sense of integration is just amazing. This obviously could have been achieved by buying another pair of 802's, no doubt about it so with me having had no intention of selling the 802's anyways it's a win win in the end.

                                                                So what about the HTM2 smile.gif It still holds it's own in the setup especially when the center is strictly dialog but with the 800's and 802's working in harmony with music it does stand out more then it did when my surrounds were Paradigm Studio 100's probably because the HTM2 is a better speaker in the mids and highs with the low end advantage going to the 100's.
                                                                B&W 800 Diamonds (L/R), HTM2 Diamond (C), 802 Diamonds (SL/SR), Paradigm Signature Sub 25 (LFE), Reference Servo 15a x 2 (Stereo subs), Lexicon MC-12Bv5EQ SSP, Bryston 28B-SST2x 2, 7B-SST2x2, 4B-SST C Series, BDP-2, Oppo UDP-205, Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-150FD, Furman SPR-20i, IT-Reference, Eastlink Maestro PVR, Xbox One & 360, PS3, Siltech Golden Ridge II, Ruby Hill IIx2, 330ix2, Kimber Kable PK10 Gold, Tonic, PBJ, Cadence, HD19e, HD19, OPT-1, HDSW 4x1, Ixos 6003, Harmony 1000

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                                                                • leo2498
                                                                  Senior Member
                                                                  • Feb 2012
                                                                  • 370

                                                                  Originally posted by Rod#S
                                                                  I posted some more impressions on another thread and figured I would post here as some of my initial impressions have changed. This is what I wrote:

                                                                  I finally had some real quality time with the 800's today and I am very impressed. These things have some serious, serious bass capabilities when running full range and it's no wonder owners report not needing a subwoofer if using in a non home theater environment. I know 802 owners even run stereo without a sub and I can attest to them having very solid and tight bass but the 800's are definitely a step up. I know what the specs say and the 800's and 802's have ridiculously close numbers on paper but this is a phenomenon where you need to use your ears and forget about the specs because depending on the song you could easily be fooled into thinking a sub, or stereo subs were in the system. My 800's are in the exact same position that my 802's were and there is no mistaking the difference.

                                                                  Moving onto the mids I find them to be very smooth, warm and fluid. they obviously posses the accuracy of the 802's but deliver it with a warmer presentation. I had reported after listening to the Focal Alto Utopia a few weeks back how warm and fluid the mids were compared to the 802's, the 800's are giving what I heard from the Alto's.

                                                                  I'm practically equally as impressed with the surround experience the 800's and 802's give. As reported earlier the soundstage and sense of integration is just amazing. This obviously could have been achieved by buying another pair of 802's, no doubt about it so with me having had no intention of selling the 802's anyways it's a win win in the end.

                                                                  So what about the HTM2 smile.gif It still holds it's own in the setup especially when the center is strictly dialog but with the 800's and 802's working in harmony with music it does stand out more then it did when my surrounds were Paradigm Studio 100's probably because the HTM2 is a better speaker in the mids and highs with the low end advantage going to the 100's.
                                                                  Rod I saw that you had 3 good SW in your room, how you can compare this stereo SW with the bass of the 800? I listened my 804D in full band operation and It was better in accuracy and definition in bass instead my SVS sealed SW.

                                                                  BTW it's possible a pic with the all front?
                                                                  Leo,
                                                                  Saludos
                                                                  My HT: B&W 804D fronts, HTM4D center, 805D rears, Classe CA-2300 Main amp, Preamp Stereo CLASSE CP800, Preamp Multi Marantz AV8801, Parasound A31 center and Surround Amp, Source Oppo BDP-95 screen Samsung 55" UE55d8000 SVS SB12-NSD

                                                                  Stereo: B&W 804S fronts, Pre: Denon AVR-2809 Amp: Rotel 1582, Source Marantz CD5004.

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                                                                  • Rod#S
                                                                    Senior Member
                                                                    • Oct 2010
                                                                    • 474

                                                                    Originally posted by leo2498
                                                                    Rod I saw that you had 3 good SW in your room, how you can compare this stereo SW with the bass of the 800? I listened my 804D in full band operation and It was better in accuracy and definition in bass instead my SVS sealed SW.

                                                                    BTW it's possible a pic with the all front?
                                                                    The Servo 15's go deeper, there is no question there. The Sub 25 doesn't really factor in because it is a dedicated LFE sub. I was shocked how well the 800's do in comparison to the twin Servo's. The Servo's can definitely shake the room more than the 800's but as for accuracy it's a toss up really. I suspect the Servo's would cope better with sustained low frequency signals but with quick hits in and around 30-40Hz and higher, at this point, as I'm still in the early days it could go either way.

                                                                    This definitely doesn't change my mind that for home theater a sub is still a must just due to the fact movies can have very, very low frequencies which last for many seconds in duration and can repeat many times during a movie. I would actually be concerned of damaging the 800's if I were to experiment letting them run full range for a movie and re-route LFE signals to them.

                                                                    I can't get a straight on picture of all of the front speakers, my camera lens can't extend wide enough. If aiming dead center at the center the camera can't pick up either 800. The 800's are a little shy of 9 feet apart from tweeter to tweeter.
                                                                    B&W 800 Diamonds (L/R), HTM2 Diamond (C), 802 Diamonds (SL/SR), Paradigm Signature Sub 25 (LFE), Reference Servo 15a x 2 (Stereo subs), Lexicon MC-12Bv5EQ SSP, Bryston 28B-SST2x 2, 7B-SST2x2, 4B-SST C Series, BDP-2, Oppo UDP-205, Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-150FD, Furman SPR-20i, IT-Reference, Eastlink Maestro PVR, Xbox One & 360, PS3, Siltech Golden Ridge II, Ruby Hill IIx2, 330ix2, Kimber Kable PK10 Gold, Tonic, PBJ, Cadence, HD19e, HD19, OPT-1, HDSW 4x1, Ixos 6003, Harmony 1000

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                                                                    • leo2498
                                                                      Senior Member
                                                                      • Feb 2012
                                                                      • 370

                                                                      Originally posted by Rod#S
                                                                      The Servo 15's go deeper, there is no question there. The Sub 25 doesn't really factor in because it is a dedicated LFE sub. I was shocked how well the 800's do in comparison to the twin Servo's. The Servo's can definitely shake the room more than the 800's but as for accuracy it's a toss up really. I suspect the Servo's would cope better with sustained low frequency signals but with quick hits in and around 30-40Hz and higher, at this point, as I'm still in the early days it could go either way.

                                                                      This definitely doesn't change my mind that for home theater a sub is still a must just due to the fact movies can have very, very low frequencies which last for many seconds in duration and can repeat many times during a movie. I would actually be concerned of damaging the 800's if I were to experiment letting them run full range for a movie and re-route LFE signals to them.

                                                                      I can't get a straight on picture of all of the front speakers, my camera lens can't extend wide enough. If aiming dead center at the center the camera can't pick up either 800. The 800's are a little shy of 9 feet apart from tweeter to tweeter.

                                                                      ohh I see, I guess too always the bass drivers in the 800 will be more accurate for music them a SW. I'm agree with you for movie the sw is a must.
                                                                      Leo,
                                                                      Saludos
                                                                      My HT: B&W 804D fronts, HTM4D center, 805D rears, Classe CA-2300 Main amp, Preamp Stereo CLASSE CP800, Preamp Multi Marantz AV8801, Parasound A31 center and Surround Amp, Source Oppo BDP-95 screen Samsung 55" UE55d8000 SVS SB12-NSD

                                                                      Stereo: B&W 804S fronts, Pre: Denon AVR-2809 Amp: Rotel 1582, Source Marantz CD5004.

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                                                                      • WestCoastD
                                                                        Junior Member
                                                                        • May 2013
                                                                        • 3

                                                                        Originally posted by Grzywa
                                                                        Ok, here is my quick photo (while watching movie with flash so sorry for quality)... I don't want to make detailed snaps until I'll finish setting all up. I moved to India only few months ago, and trust me it's not easy to aquire those kind of things. For everything there is a "guy" and there is no search engine to find him ;]. Not mention the prices that are sometimes twice what You would pay in EU. My heart bleeds with every buy... but today I found "Acoustic treatment Guy" that has access to auralex products so hopefully in few week's I'll be able to post some nice pictures of clean and proper setup.

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                                                                        which brand/type screen are you using here?

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                                                                        • Grzywa
                                                                          Junior Member
                                                                          • Apr 2013
                                                                          • 18

                                                                          Originally posted by WestCoastD
                                                                          which brand/type screen are you using here?
                                                                          There was not much choice for me. I have Matt White manual pull-down screen form GrandView (I think 1.0 Gain).
                                                                          Audio
                                                                          Source/Display
                                                                          Cabling/Power
                                                                          AV: Onkyo TX-NR818 + BT
                                                                          F: 683 (Bi-amp)
                                                                          C: Boston VR12
                                                                          S: 685
                                                                          Sub: 2x SVS SB13-Ultra
                                                                          12TB Media server (XBMC Database)
                                                                          Intel NUC i3 XBMC Media clients
                                                                          PS3 Slim SSD
                                                                          xBox 360 Slim
                                                                          D-Link WiDi
                                                                          Samsung 51" PS51E6500
                                                                          Optoma HD33
                                                                          Gigabit Cisco SLM Switches
                                                                          HDMI - all 1.4a 1m to 15m long
                                                                          Fornt LFQ: 4mm OFC solid core + thin fibres
                                                                          Front HFQ, Center: Belden Audio 4mm OFC - med fibres
                                                                          Rear: 2,5mm OFC (15m)
                                                                          CyberPower UPS (Sine wave)

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                                                                          • WestCoastD
                                                                            Junior Member
                                                                            • May 2013
                                                                            • 3

                                                                            Originally posted by Grzywa
                                                                            There was not much choice for me. I have Matt White manual pull-down screen form GrandView (I think 1.0 Gain).
                                                                            I see, thanks. I ask because I just purchased an Elite VMAX 2 Series (16:9 Format), electric screen. It looks visually very close to your Grandview product:


                                                                            I'm using 92in diagonal (80in wide).

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                                                                            • Grzywa
                                                                              Junior Member
                                                                              • Apr 2013
                                                                              • 18

                                                                              Originally posted by WestCoastD
                                                                              I see, thanks. I ask because I just purchased an Elite VMAX 2 Series (16:9 Format), electric screen. It looks visually very close to your Grandview product:


                                                                              I'm using 92in diagonal (80in wide).
                                                                              You are in USA wright ? Here in India I could not find anything except GrandView. And I did not buy electric as is was 8x more expensive than manual and 3x more than in USA. I'll leave India in 1,5 years, so it's pointless to overpay for it now.
                                                                              Audio
                                                                              Source/Display
                                                                              Cabling/Power
                                                                              AV: Onkyo TX-NR818 + BT
                                                                              F: 683 (Bi-amp)
                                                                              C: Boston VR12
                                                                              S: 685
                                                                              Sub: 2x SVS SB13-Ultra
                                                                              12TB Media server (XBMC Database)
                                                                              Intel NUC i3 XBMC Media clients
                                                                              PS3 Slim SSD
                                                                              xBox 360 Slim
                                                                              D-Link WiDi
                                                                              Samsung 51" PS51E6500
                                                                              Optoma HD33
                                                                              Gigabit Cisco SLM Switches
                                                                              HDMI - all 1.4a 1m to 15m long
                                                                              Fornt LFQ: 4mm OFC solid core + thin fibres
                                                                              Front HFQ, Center: Belden Audio 4mm OFC - med fibres
                                                                              Rear: 2,5mm OFC (15m)
                                                                              CyberPower UPS (Sine wave)

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                                                                              • WestCoastD
                                                                                Junior Member
                                                                                • May 2013
                                                                                • 3

                                                                                Originally posted by Grzywa
                                                                                You are in USA wright ? Here in India I could not find anything except GrandView. And I did not buy electric as is was 8x more expensive than manual and 3x more than in USA. I'll leave India in 1,5 years, so it's pointless to overpay for it now.
                                                                                yes, USA. Surprisingly very cheap cost for decent quality electronic screen ($300.00 USD).

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                                                                                • Grzywa
                                                                                  Junior Member
                                                                                  • Apr 2013
                                                                                  • 18

                                                                                  Originally posted by WestCoastD
                                                                                  yes, USA. Surprisingly very cheap cost for decent quality electronic screen ($300.00 USD).
                                                                                  See, here I had to pay same money for simple maual one... for electric multiply by 4...
                                                                                  Audio
                                                                                  Source/Display
                                                                                  Cabling/Power
                                                                                  AV: Onkyo TX-NR818 + BT
                                                                                  F: 683 (Bi-amp)
                                                                                  C: Boston VR12
                                                                                  S: 685
                                                                                  Sub: 2x SVS SB13-Ultra
                                                                                  12TB Media server (XBMC Database)
                                                                                  Intel NUC i3 XBMC Media clients
                                                                                  PS3 Slim SSD
                                                                                  xBox 360 Slim
                                                                                  D-Link WiDi
                                                                                  Samsung 51" PS51E6500
                                                                                  Optoma HD33
                                                                                  Gigabit Cisco SLM Switches
                                                                                  HDMI - all 1.4a 1m to 15m long
                                                                                  Fornt LFQ: 4mm OFC solid core + thin fibres
                                                                                  Front HFQ, Center: Belden Audio 4mm OFC - med fibres
                                                                                  Rear: 2,5mm OFC (15m)
                                                                                  CyberPower UPS (Sine wave)

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                                                                                  • leo2498
                                                                                    Senior Member
                                                                                    • Feb 2012
                                                                                    • 370

                                                                                    Hi guys I just get the appropriate stands for my 805Di (It was the last money put in surround duty) because I need to satisfy the WAF (jajaja She is more Happy than me with this change) and I finally get out the right surround speaker from the closet to end the many jokes with it, the sound in multichannel option have improved a lot; I bought a new SW too. anyway I'm posting the last pics than I took from my HT.











                                                                                    I Added the new stereo combo!
                                                                                    Last edited by leo2498; 21 September 2013, 19:39 Saturday.
                                                                                    Leo,
                                                                                    Saludos
                                                                                    My HT: B&W 804D fronts, HTM4D center, 805D rears, Classe CA-2300 Main amp, Preamp Stereo CLASSE CP800, Preamp Multi Marantz AV8801, Parasound A31 center and Surround Amp, Source Oppo BDP-95 screen Samsung 55" UE55d8000 SVS SB12-NSD

                                                                                    Stereo: B&W 804S fronts, Pre: Denon AVR-2809 Amp: Rotel 1582, Source Marantz CD5004.

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                                                                                    • BVLDARI
                                                                                      Member
                                                                                      • Dec 2012
                                                                                      • 58

                                                                                      Looks very nice!!!

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                                                                                      • Rod#S
                                                                                        Senior Member
                                                                                        • Oct 2010
                                                                                        • 474

                                                                                        Looking good
                                                                                        B&W 800 Diamonds (L/R), HTM2 Diamond (C), 802 Diamonds (SL/SR), Paradigm Signature Sub 25 (LFE), Reference Servo 15a x 2 (Stereo subs), Lexicon MC-12Bv5EQ SSP, Bryston 28B-SST2x 2, 7B-SST2x2, 4B-SST C Series, BDP-2, Oppo UDP-205, Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-150FD, Furman SPR-20i, IT-Reference, Eastlink Maestro PVR, Xbox One & 360, PS3, Siltech Golden Ridge II, Ruby Hill IIx2, 330ix2, Kimber Kable PK10 Gold, Tonic, PBJ, Cadence, HD19e, HD19, OPT-1, HDSW 4x1, Ixos 6003, Harmony 1000

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                                                                                        • Mikael
                                                                                          Senior Member
                                                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                                                          • 379

                                                                                          very clean and nice looking system

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                                                                                          • BVLDARI
                                                                                            Member
                                                                                            • Dec 2012
                                                                                            • 58

                                                                                            Here are a couple of updated pictures of the system. I added an HTM2 and a salamander design synergy TV stand. I also mounted the TV on the wall. I am very very happy with the results. I still can’t believe how big of a difference the HTM2 made. I am also debating on pushing the left speaker a little bit further out to the left. No walls on the right. Speakers are just under 8 ft. apart now. With how relatively big the center is, I am starting to think that 8ft apart is not far enough.



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