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Let's be a proactive force for the little guy
People may have seen the nonsense regarding Monster Cable legal action's against anyone has the word "monster" in their name.
Here's a list of the law suits Monster Cable is/was involved in. Please note that there are 5 pages of actions listed This includes little mom and pop used clothing store. A guy with a costume store with a single webpage that had monster in the URL, because that particular wepage was where he showed the monster costumes. Monster Cable is a law suit machine. Anyone with a conscience should IMO boycott all products sold by that company, Boycott all retailers that sell Monster Cable products (Parts Express excluded of course People taking any or all of these actions is asked to notify Monster Cable of your actions, and why you took that action. Irene Baran, Chief Operating Officer ibaran@Monstercable.com Monster Cable Products, Inc. 455 Valley Drive Brisbane, CA 94005 415-840-2000 David Tognotti, General Counsel legal@monstercable.com Monster Cable Products, Inc. 455 Valley Drive, Brisbane, CA 94005 PH:1.415.840.2000 FX: 1.415.468.0310 Press Contact: Charles Leib, PR Monster cleib@monstercable.com Phone: (602) 300-0900 |
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And people wonder why I'm such a cynic.
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I haven't bought a Monster product in years. Not because of the frivilous lawsuits, but because their products are overpriced and mediocre.
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Good God, they're going/went after Monster Garage....I don't think I'd be messin' with Jessie James.
He'll turn a Volkswagon beetle into an amoured assult vehicle and bye-bye Monster Cable Inc. Another interesting thing I noticed is that some of the lawsuits come from Monster Attitude (tm) and Monster Money (tm) which I guess is fitting
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Makes you wonder if Noel Lee and Amar Bose are partners?
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Actually Bose sued Monster for the use of the word "LightWave"
Gorden, They also went after Monster House. Maybe the Monster house crew could pay Noel Lee a visit at his home .........
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F-monster!
I paid $180 for 2 opticals, & they wouldn't stay in the components. For that price they d*mn well better stay into any components jacks!!! |
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You've got to be kidding me. How can you put a copyright on one common english word? What's next? Are they going to sue Pixar for Monsters Inc? Or sue me if I write in a post that a big amplifier is a monster? Sue Sesame Street for Cookie Monster?
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Wait, wait wait... I just read the list, and saw that they're suing the Chicago Bears for "Monsters of Midway".
Yeah... not that the Bears have been around for DECADES longer than this little company. They're also suing Hanna Barbera for a Scooby Doo Episode, "The Monster of Mexico". No, no... they got it all wrong. It's RONSTER, not MONSTER!
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Oh my god, they've created a monster! (TM).
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Great thread!!!
By the way, efforts such as those suggested do work. One of the suits has been dismissed and an apology from Monster received for launching the suit to begin with. And, why??? Because Monster got a bunch of messages threatening to never buy their products again. Here's a LINK. to the company that had been sued. Very interesting to read Monster's lawyer's comments as well as Monster's letter of apology. Links to both are at the site I've linked.
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Also great is the company's response back to Monster. Make SURE you read the last line. It's a hoot. It reads, in part:
I understand your need to protect your trademark. Unfortunately, you chose one of the most commonly used words in the Halloween industry to represent your company. People were having monster nightmares before wire existed. You cannot commandeer the word from the English language. Here is some research I did for my response to the case: Number of live registered trademarks for the word "monster": 20 Number of live registered trademarks containing the word "monster": 471 Number of domain names containing the word "monster" (domainsurfer.com): 6,619 Number of domain names that start with the word "monster" (domainsurfer.com): 3,303 Number of hits from a search for "monster" on google.com: about 5,950,000 Number of hits from a search for "monster cable" on google.com: about 126,000 Number of hits from a search for "monster shop" without "monster cable" on google.com: 768 Number of hits from a search for "monster shop" with "monster cable" on google.com: 1 Number of books on BarnesandNoble.com resulting from a search for "monster": 5,734 Number of books on BarnesandNoble.com about Monster Cable Products Inc: Zero Number of movies with "monster" in the title as per IMDB.com: 285 Number of movies with "monster" in the plot description as per IMDB.com: 438 Number of movies with "monster" as a keyword as per IMDB.com: 723 Number of movies about Monster Cable Products Inc: Zero Number of times "monster" appears in the script for Young Frankenstein: 185 Number of times Monster Cable Products Inc is referenced in the script for Young Frankenstein: Zero Number of children who imagined there was a monster under the bed: probably millions Number of children who imagined there was an audio interconnect cable under the bed: probably none.
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Same here. Exactly my sentiments also. |
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One can see a link at the very bottom of the www.monster.com website as a result of legal action again them by Monster Cable. If it's published on the web and a URL contains the word "Monster", they file a complaint. As a joke Steve Eddy registered the name MonsterCableSux.com after he found out that MonsterCable itself registered the name MonsterCableSucks.com. If several hundred each month people registered a domain name containing the word "Monster" their lawyers would go insane trying to keep up with the legal actions and it would eventually hit the mainstream press. Then Monster's actions would come back and bite them in the *ss .. Last time this hit the net, MonsterCable got off easy after withdrawing the suit against the costume guy. With the new action against MonsterVintage.com there are numerous websites with threads like this. So Monster is going to get an AMAZING amount of extremely bad publicity. And this time they won't be able to undo the damage....
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Guy's there are many wonderfull things in the US - but your legal system obviously have flaws. The right to sue anyone and everyone is one of them.
So agree - will send them a couple of mails or two. Oh - and Danbry. Think your wrong about the kids dreaming about cables being zero - I often dream of them... ;-) |
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A little off topic but in the same vein,A company in the US is suing Australian manufacturers for using the Ugg boot name .These boots made of sheep skin (and of questionable taste) have been made in Australia for well over twenty years and are a generic name for the boot.A US maker has trademarked the name and is telling the Australian inventors and manufacturers they cant use it any more .
A pox on lawyers where ever they Lurk!! Brendon |
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Somehow, I have this suspesion that the lawyers in question are working on contingencie. Basicly, Monster Cable let the free lawyers go after anybody they want and give them a percent of what ever money they happend to extort from these people.
especially this sentence: "Monster Cable's Attorney then asked if I could come up with $1000.00. And then went on to say they also required 1% of the gross business yearly income" I was a victum of that kind of pratice a couple of years ago Peter |
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Until your politicians change the laws it's not only Monster who'll sue to protect their name, even if they have to sue the Mom and Pop companies. Monsters only doing what US law allows them. Will these lawsuits influence my decision to buy or not to buy Monster Cable products? NOPE! Just got me a new Monster HTPS7000 last week to go with my Monster AVS 2000.
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EVERYONE, please stay on topic, that means leaving what cables you bought or are planning to buy out of this. The topic is straightforward, please stay on topic. PERIOD.
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Thanks for changing your previous reply that singled me out. ht_addict |
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it was never my intent to single anyone out ht_addict. I many times don't read but what's most current. When you try to keep an eye on the entire forum, sometimes, that is all I have time to do, please keep that in mind in the future when I may respond to something that seems discremenatory. I am not discreminatory, hell, I don't even know how to spell it. I try to treat everyone the same in my responses.
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That's discriminatory, Lex .
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Monster Cable is not as smart as Bill Gates, since they have not integrated their stuff on electronics at all. They're overpriced and crap out at times, maybe they should bundle their products for people to try, which is obvious that none would be picked up. <comment deleted by admin. While funny, not appropriate for this forum>
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The truth about Monster cable is that most anyone who has used one of their products and then tries another brand reaches the common conclusion......
they are over-priced,over-hyped and under-performing.They are aimed at masses who shop at B.B. and C.C. This is not to say that all their products are terrible,but for same cost and less there is much better. As for their lawsuits...well they come across like a bunch of mobsters,which is how our laws allows them to be.Remember Spike Lee's lawsuit against the cable network Spike?A judge issued an injuction holding up the start up of an entire network until the case was settled out of court.Spike tv is now on my cable system...and Spike Lee was most likely paid a sum.Apparently he owns the name Spike.So if any of you out there are thinking of naming your dog..don't use Spike. |
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Believe it or not Bill Gates tried to copyright the word Windows. Can you just imaging how many law suits that would have generated?
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IIRC, Microsoft was not able to copyright Windows because the terminology was in prior use for the Macintosh OS and even earlier with the Xerox GUI. Even so, the term has become so well known as the Microsoft GUI that one Linux company was forced to change its name from Lindows. Even though the heavyweight won that fight, it's actually a good example of not showing up second with a blatant rip-off name.
Monster Cable's problem is that they've shown up long after Frankenstein, King Kong and Godzilla, who all have a much bigger claim to the word. I'll bet the only reason they keep up the litigation is so that it prevents others from using the name in an advertisement. Eg. Our cable is better than Monster's. What I want to know is whether www.monster.com can prevent Monster Cable from publicly advertising for employment. :)ensen.
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Hmmm... On HALLOWEEN, I was watching home movies, including one of an old girlfriend in the boxing gym. Man, you should see my EX BOX! (So sweaty, she wasn't a very KLEEN EX) Suddenly, I looked out my WINDOWS and thought I saw a MONSTER. Not, so, though, it was only a black CAT, forecasting my impending DOOM.
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A video of a sweaty ex has got to rank as one of the lethal SAF items anyone could own. Are you sure it's safe to even mention it in public?
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I can't belive Monster Cables is pulling this crap...
What a POS company |
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I guess if one is big enough they can "bully" anyone they so choose. As a marketing concept, the name "MONSTER" may be very effective, but I think they chose a word that is far too common. Hopefully common sense will prevail in the courts and Monster Cable will be forced to pay ALL the expenses for the small mom and pop businesses as the case is tossed out of court.
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I wonder if they've filed on REM for their album Monster?
Because of this kind of mentality, I'll absolutely go as far out of my way as I have to in order to keep from EVER owning any more of Monster's products (I had their in-wall rated speaker cable in my old house). Je*ks. . . .
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Not politically correct but does express Steve Eddy's view of Monster
<below converted to link by admin, not appropriate for all viewers, nor endorsed by management of this forum> http://www.q-audio.com/images/monsterthugs.jpg
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OMG, I cannot believe what I am reading!!!! Wait a minute, I'm educated, I can!!! We put these people in office, oh, we have no other choice.
Let's see, we can vote: A.)Lawyer B.)Lawyer C.)MovieStar D.)Lawyer They have all the Billions, and they make it off of us before they run for office, then they can continue to run for office and insure the survival of the lawyer species by creating laws that alow them to sue for using the word MONSTER!!! I have used this word well before Monster Cable existed. I will buy RatShack and listen to static before I buy Monster, go CatCable!!!! Shane (Not all lawyer's suck, just most of them) Disclaimer: Any lawyer reading this who wants to file claim against me for saying you suck, you really don't suck, I meant somebody else!! |
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I'm going to patent the word "ultra" and sue Monster Cables for using that word in every single piece of their products.
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My holiday greeting to good old Irene.
Hello Irene, I recently spent several hundred dollars on your cable products along with some new A/V equipment. Since that purchase I have learned of your many filed lawsuits against innocent companies, businesses, and decent people regarding the use of the "WORD". I would like to inform you that my purchase of your product has since been returned and replace with a competitors products at a significantly lower cost. I am closely monitoring the status of the before mentioned lawsuits, and will do my part to discourage the purchase, in any way, of your products whenever possible. Happy Holidays. |
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