Official SSP-800 Thread

[Hberg]

This would be really cool talk about the ultimate sound immersion. The only issue is you have to have the room size to accommodate this and also the amps

I have a room that is about 15 feet wide and 48 ft long. It is all open with a Bar and Card Table at one end and the main theater area at the other end. You can view the screen from the back of the room at the bar. So room size is not an issue, and an amp can be purchased. (Maybe I should post some pics some time.)

I am just curious if the SSP-800 could be used for a 9.1 system?

[RebelMan]

By the way Rebel man on an othernote on the B&W 800D vs 802D this is straight from B&W

In other words, what I stated in that other thread was 100% correct and you agree. :B

BTW, thanks for sharing the detailed information B&W provided.

[sc2]

In other words, what I stated in that other thread was 100% correct and you agree. :B

BTW, thanks for sharing the detailed information B&W provided.

Well, Kal won't like this... now he's going to have to upgrade :rofl:


Steve

[RebelMan]

I am just curious if the SSP-800 could be used for a 9.1 system?

Not exactly. The two additional channels are for bi-amping the LR OR running a stereo pair in another zone OR adding two subwoofers in a stereo pair.

[RebelMan]

Well, Kal won't like this... now he's going to have to upgrade :rofl:


Steve

I know and I apologized to him for it, albeit late.

[wettou]

In other words, what I stated in that other thread was 100% correct and you agree. :B BTW, thanks for sharing the detailed information B&W provided.

Here is the summary:

802D uses the following:
- Diamond Tweeter: M-Cap Supreme Gold & Silver
- Midrange low-pass M-Cap Supremes
- Bass: basic M-Cap

and

800D uses for all M-cap Supreme Gold & Silver is used.
- Diamond Tweeter: M-Cap Supreme Gold & Silver
- Midrange low-pass M-Cap Supreme Gold & Silver
- Bass: basic M-Cap

http://www.thlaudio.com/McapitmE.htm

[wettou]

I have a room that is about 15 feet wide and 48 ft long. It is all open with a Bar and Card Table at one end and the main theater area at the other end. You can view the screen from the back of the room at the bar. So room size is not an issue, and an amp can be purchased. (Maybe I should post some pics some time.)

Yes please post pictures

[RebelMan]

Here is the summary:

802D uses the following:
- Diamond Tweeter: M-Cap Supreme Gold & Silver
- Midrange low-pass M-Cap Supremes
- Bass: basic M-Cap

and

800D uses for all M-cap Supreme Gold & Silver is used.
- Diamond Tweeter: M-Cap Supreme Gold & Silver
- Midrange low-pass M-Cap Supreme Gold & Silver
- Bass: basic M-Cap

Correction

802D
- Tweeter: M-Cap Supreme Silver/Gold
- Midrange: M-Cap and M-Cap Supreme
- Bass: M-Cap

800D
- Tweeter: M-Cap Supreme Silver/Gold
- Midrange: M-Cap Supreme and M-Cap Supreme Silver/Gold
- Bass: M-Cap

[sc2]

Correction

802D
- Tweeter: M-Cap Supreme Silver/Gold
- Midrange: M-Cap and M-Cap Supreme
- Bass: M-Cap

800D
- Tweeter: M-Cap Supreme Silver/Gold
- Midrange: M-Cap Supreme and M-Cap Supreme Silver/Gold
- Bass: M-Cap

Do you think those 800D caps will fit in the 802d's?

Steve

[wettou]

I have a room that is about 15 feet wide and 48 ft long. It is all open with a Bar and Card Table at one end and the main theater area at the other end. You can view the screen from the back of the room at the bar. So room size is not an issue, and an amp can be purchased. (Maybe I should post some pics some time.) I am just curious if the SSP-800 could be used for a 9.1 system?

Cool, you will need a lot of amplification in that room may I suggest Electrocompaniet MonoBlock NEMO 600W. What kind of speakers do you have?

[RebelMan]

Do you think those 800D caps will fit in the 802d's?

Absolutely not. In fact when I asked why the 800D comes with a different plinth than the others the answer I got was that a contoured plinth would have been to small to accommodate the network. Some of the caps in the 800D are huge.

[RebelMan]

Cool, you will need a lot of amplification in that room may I suggest Electrocompaniet MonoBlock NEMO 600W.

In a Classé thread??? How dare you! :W

[wettou]

In a Classé thread??? How dare you! :W

Ok you should try the CAM400 as well ops:

[Kal Rubinson]

Well, Kal won't like this... now he's going to have to upgrade :rofl:
Steve

Yeah. Guess I'll have to dump them unless B&W will upgrade the caps for me.

[wettou]

Yeah. Guess I'll have to dump them unless B&W will upgrade the caps for me.

Unlikely, but you can always try you are in the business. Otherwise just gor for the NAUTILUS

[Kal Rubinson]

Unlikely, but you can always try you are in the business. Otherwise just gor for the NAUTILUS

I may. The Nautilis would never be in my plans for many reasons (none of which pertain to its performance).

Kal

[Hberg]

Since Wettou asked for a few pictures, I have posted them in the Pictures of your Classe' Gear thread.

Although I currently have one piece of Classe equipment, I do plan on more in the near future, and this is the only place I could think of to post the pictures.

List of equipment:

Marantz SR7001
(Waiting on Classe' SSP-800)
Classe' CA-3200
B&W 804S (L&R)
B&W HTM3S (Center)
Rotel RMB-1075
(evetunally upgrading to Classe' CA-5100)
B&W Signature 7 (L&R Surround)
B&W CCM817 (L&R Surround Back)
SIM2 Domino 30H
Stuart 100" Screen
Playstation 3
RTI T2C Remote
Denon DVD-2900
Denon CDRW-1500

[rompower]

If it becomes available, I have unfortunately scar tissue from other high end manufacturer that never delivered which is why I would rather wait six months until it has all the updates.

Yes that would be very nice so you don't have to buy a player that decodes everything!

This would be really cool talk about the ultimate sound immersion. The only issue is you have to have the room size to accommodate this and also the amps

Indeed, but well... Classé wrote me IT will be available... Plus, the "brochure" (dunno what's the word in english but well...) in the PDF presentation of the Classé SSp-800 ( http://www.classeaudio.com/downloads...00_Leaflet.pdf )

"The new HD audio codecs may be decoded inside many Blu-ray (or HD DVD) players and output lossless, bit-forbit on HDMI as multichannel PCM. A new dual DSP module is being designed specifically to decode these new codecs inside the SSP-800. When available, it will be offered free of charge to original owners of the SSP-800."

I hope this is not for "marketing" only...
the little thing that'S scaring me... "to ORIGINAL owners of.." will they take so long to do the upgrade that a lot of owner will change it for something decoding all those codecs? :P

[wettou]

"The new HD audio codecs may be decoded inside many Blu-ray (or HD DVD) players.

Haven't you heard HD-DVD is dead! and only two blu ray player to date decode any of the new codec Denon and PS3!

A new dual DSP module is being designed specifically to decode these new codecs inside the SSP-800. When available, it will be offered free of charge to original owners of the SSP-800." I hope this is not for "marketing" only... the little thing that'S scaring me... "to ORIGINAL owners of.." will they take so long to do the upgrade that a lot of owner will change it for something decoding all those codecs? :P

Yes and here is the issues "When available may be next year in 2009 in the fall?

[hifiguymi]

Haven't you heard HD-DVD is dead! and only two blu ray player to date decode any of the new codec Denon and PS3!

You mean all of the available codecs. There are a number of players that will in the near future and at different price points.

Panasonic DMP-BD50 $699.00US - June
Pioneer BDP-51FD $799.00US - June / July
Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD $599.00US - July / August
Sony BDP-S550 $499.00US - August / September
Marantz BD-8002 $2099.00US - June / July (I think)

Here is a list of what players do what.

http://idoblu.co.uk/page2%20Blu-ray%20Players.html

Yes and here is the issues "When available may be next year in 2009 in the fall?

We don't know when it will be available but with that many players becoming available that have internal decoding, the time should pass quickly.

Eric

[wettou]

You mean all of the available codecs. There are a number of players that will in the near future and at different price points.

Panasonic DMP-BD50 $699.00US - June
Pioneer BDP-51FD $799.00US - June / July
Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD $599.00US - July / August
Sony BDP-S550 $499.00US - August / September
Marantz BD-8002 $2099.00US - June / July (I think)

Here is a list of what players do what. http://idoblu.co.uk/page2%20Blu-ray%20Players.html We don't know when it will be available but with that many players becoming available that have internal decoding, the time should pass quickly. Eric

Yes, DTS Master Audio and Dolby Digital tru HD especially.

Cool thank you, Ah that might be the answer then, let's see what the Sony sounds and looks like. I will go to my dealer in June when he receive the SSP-800 hopefully so I can hear the beast who knows I might just decide to buy it there and then? I personally would prefer to have the unit built at Classé with the new codec rather than having to upgrade!! There is this feeling of knowing that it was done and tested at the factory

[wettou]

Classe SSP-800 Preamp/Processor


by Tom Andry — last modified May 18, 2008 19:33


Classe SSP-800 Preamp/Processor
Summary

• Product Name: SSP-800 Preamp Processor
• Manufacturer: Classe
• Review Date: May 15, 2008
• MSRP: $8000
• First Impression: Pretty Cool

Specifications

Inputs and outputs
HDMI 1.3 4 in / 2 out
Component 2 in / 1 out
S video 2 in
Composite 2 in
COAX 4 in / 1 out
Optical 4 in / 1 out
Analog XLR 1 pair in / 5 pair out
Analog RCA 1 set 7.1 in / 2 pair in / 5 pair out
DC trigger out 2
IR 1 in / 1 out
CAN Bus 1 in / 1 out
USB 1
RS-232 1

Video measurements

• Input impedance 75 ohms Composite / s video / component
• Output impedance 75 ohms Component
• HDMI Fully 1.3 compliant supporting 1080p @ 24/50/60fps, 36-bit deep color and xvYCC

Audio measurements

• Maximum output level 8vrms Single ended, 15vrms Balanced
• Maximum input level 2vrms Single ended via DSP, 6vrms Single ended via bypass, 4vrms Balanced via DSP, 12vrms Balanced via bypass
• Output impedance 56 ohms
• Input impedance 100kohms
• Total harmonic distortion 0.001% Digital source / Bypassed analog source, 0.002% Processed analog source
• Frequency response 20Hz – 200kHz <0.1dB Stereo analog bypass, 20Hz – 20kHz <0.2dB All other sources
• Signal to noise ratio 102dB Bypassed analog source, 100dB Processed analog source, 105dB Digital source

Audio formats
Dolby Digital Surround EX
Dolby Digital 5.1
DTS-ES discrete
DTS 3/2/1
DTS 96/24
24bit/32-192kHz PCM

• Dolby True, DTS-HD Master Audio decoding will be supported after after free DSP upgrade!!!! MAYBE
  

Post processing modes
Dolby pro logic IIx
DTS-ES matrix
DTS Neo:6
Mono
Mono plus
Stereo (downmix)
Music plus
Movie plus
Party

Video conversion
Composite / s video to component and HDMI
Component (upto 720p-1080i) to component and HDMI
HDMI to HDMI

Dimensions
Width 17.5” (444mm)
Depth 16.5” (419mm) excluding connectors
Height 6.75” (172mm)
Net weight 29lb. (13kg)
Gross weight 38lb. (17.25kg)


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Executive Overview
One doesn't have to be interested in Home Theater for too long before they come across the name "Classé." And from an aesthetic viewpoint alone, the name is apt. They make some of the best looking gear out there. Classé is taking processors to a new level with the release of their new SSP-800 - a 10 channel preamp/processor that promises bells and whistles that you didn't even know you wanted with some fairly interesting omissions.

Classé is of the opinion that any piece of equipment that can do music well, can more than stand up to the "rigors" of movies - and I tend to agree. The SSP-800 has both balanced and singled-ended outputs for all channels. All internal processing can be bypassed if you want but there is bass management and parametric EQ adjustments available for both analog and digital sources. Rather than have a slew of useless analogue inputs, the SSP-800 sports mostly digital with four HDMI, Coax, and TOSLink a piece. It also has a set of 7.1 analogue inputs, a pair of balanced analogue inputs and two pairs of RCA style audio inputs. There are two each of s-video, composite, and components inputs. Outputs include one each of component video, coax audio, and TOSLink outputs and two HDMI. This compliment of audio and video inputs is something I'd love to see more receivers and processors adopt. The back panel also has a USB port, two 12 volt triggers, and IR input and output and a RS-232 port.

The DSP is handled by a Texas Instruments platform which not only operates in 64-bit double precision but is also mounted to a removable (and theoretically upgradable) module. According to Classé, early adopters who won't have access to on board high definition audio format decoding can look forward to a free upgrade of the module when one is ready. We've seen receivers/processors before that were "future-proof" that didn't get the support they were supposed to. It will be interesting to see if Classé follows through with their promises.


Each of the HDMI inputs are not only the latest and greatest (version 1.3a) but also support 36-bit Deep Color - something that Blu-ray can't even provide yet! The two additional channels (from the 8 used for your general 7.1 configuration) can be assigned to a Zone 2, as duplicates of the front channels for bi-amping or buy-wiring, or just for additional subwoofers (and we all know we could use a few more of those in our lives). Classé has provided manual five band parametric equalization for each channel. The front of the unit has a touchscreen giving the user complete control without marring that classic "audiophile" clean look.


The price tag of the Classé SSP-800 is steep and as such, we would be remiss not to mention some of the shortcomings.


While we understand the reasons Classé gave behind the decision not to have an automatic room correction system (in short, they say that auto calibration doesn't work since every room is unique), we don't buy it. At $8000 we'd expect some sort of high-end (Audyssey MultEQ or similar) AND manual adjustments. There is also a disturbing lack of video upconversion on the SSP-800. We understand that audio is most important to Classé but it isn't the only thing that people look for in a processor. Sure, you can expect people that would plop down $8000 for a processor to have good source components but Classé decision seems to require it. With Denon's AVP-A1HDCI having almost everything the SSP-800 does plus more AND costing $1000 less, it really is going to be interesting to see how the Classé fairs in its search for those rare high-end customers."




I would agree with the author of this brief review, I think they just wanted to save money and maximize profit!!! It is very very disapointing more $$$ for less.

[RebelMan]

While we understand the reasons Classé gave behind the decision not to have an automatic room correction system (in short, they say that auto calibration doesn't work since every room is unique), we don't buy it. At $8000 we'd expect some sort of high-end (Audyssey MultEQ or similar) AND manual adjustments. There is also a disturbing lack of video upconversion on the SSP-800. We understand that audio is most important to Classé but it isn't the only thing that people look for in a processor. Sure, you can expect people that would plop down $8000 for a processor to have good source components but Classé decision seems to require it. With Denon's AVP-A1HDCI having almost everything the SSP-800 does plus more AND costing $1000 less, it really is going to be interesting to see how the Classé fairs in its search for those rare high-end customers."


I would agree with the author of this brief review, I think they just wanted to save money and maximize profit!!! It is very very disapointing more $$$ for less.

I saw this article. While the SSP-800 DOES have the hardware to support Audyssey AND Trinnov Classé firmly believes, based on their lab tests, that automated room correction does not perform nearly as well as manual control. Personally, I can vouch for this from my own experience with SSP's that provided both mechanisms. However, like the issue some people have with on board decoding, Classé may have been better off enabling auto EQ rather than explain away why it is unnecessary to the technically unaware.

As for video processing, most players do a better job than AVPs and given that it's an area that changes frequently, it was the right call Classé made to exclude that feature especially in the age of REAL high-definition content.

Again, the SSP-800 was designed to do its job of processing SOUND perfectly while simultaneously staving off obsolescence from "today's special" features. Some people can appreciate the tangible value in that and some can not. It has the potential of being the last pre/pro upgrade you'll need to make for many years to come. It gives you EVERYTHING you NEED and nothing you don't to enjoy virtually all forms of audio.

[wettou]

I saw this article. While the SSP-800 DOES have the hardware to support Audyssey AND Trinnov Classé firmly believes, based on their lab tests, that automated room correction does not perform nearly as well as manual control. Personally, I can vouch for this from my own experience with SSP's that provided both mechanisms. However, like the issue some people have with on board decoding, Classé may have been better off enabling auto EQ rather than explain away why it is unnecessary to the technically unaware.

Yes that would have avoided this issue and gain them additional customers

As for video processing, most players do a better job than AVPs and given that it's an area that changes frequently, it was the right call Classé made to exclude that feature especially in the age of REAL high-definition content.

Yes, here again an Oppo player will do a great job for ($400) in standard DVD, and Blu Ray needs no upgrading. But here again Classé could have licensed the Silicon Optix HQV Realta and gain additional customers!:cry:

As I said it is very unfortunate that Classé didn't do their home work and look at what the market wants.

Again, the SSP-800 was designed to do its job of processing SOUND perfectly while simultaneously staving off obsolescence from "today's special" features. Some people can appreciate the tangible value in that and some can not.

"staving off obsolescence" Classé SSP-800 is already obsolete out of the gate;
- no new codec, (yes I know it is comming in the not too distant future may be in 2009 or 10)
- no autoEQ, and
- no video upscaler

I am just very disappointed since I was really looking forward to have all Classé gear and now I have doubt may be I should have gone to Meridian!!

"You can buy a Ford as long as it's black" :lol:

[sikoniko]

I'm replying on my phone so I am no going to break this down.

let me start by saying you are dead wrong and you have no facts to substantiate your opinion.

they did make an all inclusive product. the ssp900. would you have been willing to pay 25$k for it? I wouldn't have been able to. that's like choosing a proc or a new car!!!

with all due respect, I ask you to buy the denon and quit worrying about what the classe is not. you want the features buy something with it.. heck, buy the onkyo.

the classe is a bare bone no compromise audio solution.

the fact is, they have 50+ 800's on preorder. I bet their 300 and 600 combined didn't see numbers like that. the market does want this just as it is.

Yes that would have avoided this issue and gain them additional customers




Yes, here again an Oppo player will do a great job for ($400) in standard DVD, and Blu Ray needs no upgrading. But here again Classé could have licensed the Silicon Optix HQV Realta and gain additional customers!:cry:

As I said it is very unfortunate that Classé didn't do their home work and look at what the market wants.



"staving off obsolescence" Classé SSP-800 is already obsolete out of the gate;
- no new codec, (yes I know it is comming in the not too distant future may be in 2009 or 10)
- no autoEQ, and
- no video upscaler

I am just very disappointed since I was really looking forward to have all Classé gear and now I have doubt may be I should have gone to Meridian!!

"You can buy a Ford as long as it's black" :lol:

[RebelMan]

Yes that would have avoided this issue and gain them additional customers

Ignorant ones only.

Yes, here again an Oppo player will do a great job for ($400) in standard DVD, and Blu Ray needs no upgrading. But here again Classé could have licensed the Silicon Optix HQV Realta and gain additional customers!:cry:

As I said it is very unfortunate that Classé didn't do their home work and look at what the market wants.

Then what is one to do when the next "great" video processing solution comes along and their AVP is stuck in the mud with last year's tech? I have see countless "oneup" solutions from competing vendors in the last year or two alone. ABT? Gennum? National? Silicon? The list is endless. Get real.

"staving off obsolescence" Classé SSP-800 is already obsolete out of the gate;
- no new codec, (yes I know it is comming in the not too distant future may be in 2009 or 10)
- no autoEQ, and
- no video upscaler

You're not even close. Your remarks are nothing more than argumentative.

I am just very disappointed since I was really looking forward to have all Classé gear and now I have doubt may be I should have gone to Meridian!!

If all I wanted was to please my fingers instead of my ears (or my brain) I would be too.

[rompower]

"As for video processing, most players do a better job than AVPs and given that it's an area that changes frequently, it was the right call Classé made to exclude that feature especially in the age of REAL high-definition content."

To rebelman...
you CAN'T SAY BETTER!

Guys, come on, DVD'S resolution su***, 480 lines..without talking about the HUGE ~384kbits audio bitrate on DVD Time to upgrade to HD content!!

And guys, I need your advice =)
Just bougth the CA-5100 too
So.. waiting for my SSP-800 (52th on the list! eheh) and CA-5100... but...
I have to buy a CD player, I tough about he CDP-102, asked my dealer what should I go for.. they suggested me to buy the Disc Transport, and let my SSp-800 decode the audio to analogic since the decoder on the ssp-800 is way better than CDP-102..
CDP-102, 4500$, Disc Transport, 5000$
What would you choose?!?

Thanks :P

[dmccombs]

Yes that would have avoided this issue and gain them additional customers


Yes, here again an Oppo player will do a great job for ($400) in standard DVD, and Blu Ray needs no upgrading. But here again Classé could have licensed the Silicon Optix HQV Realta and gain additional customers!:cry:

As I said it is very unfortunate that Classé didn't do their home work and look at what the market wants.

"staving off obsolescence" Classé SSP-800 is already obsolete out of the gate;
- no new codec, (yes I know it is comming in the not too distant future may be in 2009 or 10)
- no autoEQ, and
- no video upscaler

I am just very disappointed since I was really looking forward to have all Classé gear and now I have doubt may be I should have gone to Meridian!!

"You can buy a Ford as long as it's black" :lol:

Yep, this reads like the Denon HDA1 Prepro spec sheet, including the Realta Scaler. It sounds like you need to try the Denon.

The Classe is a different product, going after a slightly different market. It is geared for those that want the Processor to focus on the music.

I have the Denon, but I am not using the Features you list as important.
- Scaler (ok, I use it for DISH, but I could live without it).
- Audyssey (Turned off).
- Streaming Media (I use my Sonos instead).
- Decodes TruHD and DTA-MA. (I use this, but it is easy enough to get a BD player that decodes these signals and passwes 96/24 PCM).

I like the Denon, but I could live without the "extra" features if the sound quality is noticably better.

I am guessing Classe left most of the "extra" features to reduce noise in the signal. I think this is crucial for Classe. If it doesn't sound better than the Denon, then there is little reason to get the Classe. It has less features than the Denon, and costs more.

So, heres to hoping the sound quality will be like we expect. :T

Darrell

[wettou]

Yep, this reads like the Denon HDA1 Prepro spec sheet, including the Realta Scaler. It sounds like you need to try the Denon. The Classe is a different product, going after a slightly different market. It is geared for those that want the Processor to focus on the music. I have the Denon, but I am not using the Features you list as important.
- Scaler (ok, I use it for DISH, but I could live without it).
- Audyssey (Turned off).
- Streaming Media (I use my Sonos instead).
- Decodes TruHD and DTA-MA. (I use this, but it is easy enough to get a BD player that decodes these signals and passwes 96/24 PCM).

I like the Denon, but I could live without the "extra" features if the sound quality is noticeably better. I am guessing Classé left most of the "extra" features to reduce noise in the signal.

May be, or may be it was just that they didn't want to pay for the licnsing fees and technology.

I think this is crucial for Classé. If it doesn't sound better than the Denon, then there is little reason to get the Classé. It has less features than the Denon, and costs more. So, heres to hoping the sound quality will be like we expect. :T Darrell

If the sound is better in the Classé SSP-800 then that is what I will buy. But I am not so sure it will be better than the Denon, I only want to be proven wrong as I would like nothing better than be all Classé, but then again when I compare Oppo to all other DVD players I can't justify burning $7000 for the Classé DVD player!

I think I got it for best of both worlds=
Classé SSP-800 + Denon DVD-3800BDCi Blu-Ray Player = $10K plus taxe

Denon Blu Ray player has 10-bit Realta HQV video processor, dual 32-bit Burr-Brown audio decoders, and DD Tru HD and DTS-Master Audio decoders

Please don't be so defensive, I understand it is like faith, "Believe or NOT"!

[Harmonium]

"As for video processing, most players do a better job than AVPs and given that it's an area that changes frequently, it was the right call Classé made to exclude that feature especially in the age of REAL high-definition content."

To rebelman...
you CAN'T SAY BETTER!

Guys, come on, DVD'S resolution su***, 480 lines..without talking about the HUGE ~384kbits audio bitrate on DVD Time to upgrade to HD content!!

And guys, I need your advice =)
Just bougth the CA-5100 too
So.. waiting for my SSP-800 (52th on the list! eheh) and CA-5100... but...
I have to buy a CD player, I tough about he CDP-102, asked my dealer what should I go for.. they suggested me to buy the Disc Transport, and let my SSp-800 decode the audio to analogic since the decoder on the ssp-800 is way better than CDP-102..
CDP-102, 4500$, Disc Transport, 5000$
What would you choose?!?

Thanks :P

I bought the transport and I am quite pleased with it. I already owned the SSP-600. Well, i just sold it and my dealer offered me their demo till the SSP-800 is going out.

For the transport, it does video upscaling (Up to 1080p) quite well. There are little bugs in software but nothing major. :B

[wettou]

I bought the transport and I am quite pleased with it. I already owned the SSP-600. Well, i just sold it and my dealer offered me their demo till the SSP-800 is going out.

For the transport, it does video upscaling (Up to 1080p) quite well. There are little bugs in software but nothing major. :B

Who can tel me if Classé DVD beats the new Oppo DV-983H player!

Yes I realize that Classé looks are better, is better built and so on but I would guarantee that when it comes to a blind test which I did, the Oppo came out on top :Tvideo wise, now on the sound that is an other story but not by much!:rofl:

I know I am setting myself up for an argument so go ahead

[Nolan B]

Each of the HDMI inputs are not only the latest and greatest (version 1.3a) but also support 36-bit Deep Color - something that Blu-ray can't even provide yet!

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/p...eamp-processor

from the first look at audioholics....did they miss something or did I?

[RebelMan]

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/p...eamp-processor

from the first look at audioholics....did they miss something or did I?

What do you mean?

[RebelMan]

....when it comes to a blind test which I did, the Oppo came out on top :T video wise,...

How could you tell??? :W

[wettou]

How could you tell??? :W

I have a JVC DLA RS2 (calibrated) which has two HDMi input and when watching movies I would go back and forth with a multiple set of scenes. And look for color accuracy

Ideally to make it more rigorous I would have to project at the same time on two screens with two identical projector side by side. May be a dealer could do that or professional reviewers?

[Nolan B]

What do you mean?

thier review says " HDMI inputs are not only the latests and greatest (version 1.3a) but also support 36-bit Deep Color - something that Blu-ray can't even provide yet!"

I thought the SSP was shipping HDMI 1.1

[RebelMan]

I thought the SSP was shipping HDMI 1.1

It is shipping with HDMI 1.3a connections. But it is shipping without the dual-DSP board (HBR decoders).

[sikoniko]

Who can tel me if Classé DVD beats the new Oppo DV-983H player!

Yes I realize that Classé looks are better, is better built and so on but I would guarantee that when it comes to a blind test which I did, the Oppo came out on top :Tvideo wise, now on the sound that is an other story but not by much!:rofl:

I know I am setting myself up for an argument so go ahead

Sounds to me like you made your decision. why does it matter what we think?

[RebelMan]

Sounds to me like you made your decision.

No he hasn't. LOL

[wettou]

Sounds to me like you made your decision. why does it matter what we think?

Not yet, I am hopping that the Classé will live up to it's expectation and deliver stellar sound!

Otherwise the Integra DTC-9.8 sounds good too and cost $1600

http://www.integrahometheater.com/model.cfm?m=DTC-9.8&class=Separates&p=i

[sikoniko]

Not yet, I am hopping that the Classé will live up to it's expectation and deliver stellar sound!

Otherwise the Integra DTC-9.8 sounds good too and cost $1600

http://www.integrahometheater.com/mo...=Separates&p=i

I was commenting on the difference between the oppo and the classe dvd player.

As far as the processor, I think its a moot point and you are just going in circles. We don't have an answer for you. Even when the ssp is out, we won't be able to answer your questions.. only you can.

I realize you want to like the classe ssp, but its not a swiss army knife. Are you sure you are looking for a swiss army knife? My recommendation is to enjoy your system and stop asking the same question over and over here again. When the new stuff comes out, you can make your decision. Or, you can decide on the integra/denon now and consider the classe this time next year. Either way, no matter how many ways you try and ask the same question, we just can't answer it for you.

[Nolan B]

IMO its not really fare to compare the classe DVD player to the Oppo 983. The classe is obsolete compared to it because its design came out a long time ago. I garauntee if the Oppo came out a few years ago with all the ABT DVDO stuff in it it would have been priced much much more. Bottom line is perfromance we paid hundreds and even thousands for a couple of years ago youcan now get in the oppo players for a few hundred bucks.

[alebonau]

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While we understand the reasons Classé gave behind the decision not to have an automatic room correction system (in short, they say that auto calibration doesn't work since every room is unique), we don't buy it. At $8000 we'd expect some sort of high-end (Audyssey MultEQ or similar) AND manual adjustments. There is also a disturbing lack of video upconversion on the SSP-800. We understand that audio is most important to Classé but it isn't the only thing that people look for in a processor. Sure, you can expect people that would plop down $8000 for a processor to have good source components but Classé decision seems to require it. With Denon's AVP-A1HDCI having almost everything the SSP-800 does plus more AND costing $1000 less, it really is going to be interesting to see how the Classé fairs in its search for those rare high-end customers."




I would agree with the author of this brief review, I think they just wanted to save money and maximize profit!!! It is very very disapointing more $$$ for less.

unfortunate they have decided to not to include audyssey. I'm using audyssey multiQxt and audyssey dynamic eq on the denon AVP and its providing a great result. I really dont understand whey they havent included it. Its not like it would have added much in cost. even affordable receivers and pre-pros provide it as an option and if you dont want to use it as an option you dont have to. But atleast you have the choice

anyways good to see another option to the denon avp on the market in the classe here along with the Krell av pre-pro thats also soon due. especially once HBR enabled upgrade for the classe arrives should make it a desirable option particularly for the classe-b&w fans of which theres many

[RebelMan]

unfortunate they have decided to not to include audyssey. I'm using audyssey multiQxt and audyssey dynamic eq on the denon AVP and its providing a great result. I really dont understand whey they havent included it. Its not like it would have added much in cost. even affordable receivers and pre-pros provide it as an option and if you dont want to use it as an option you dont have to. But atleast you have the choice

I'm inclined to agree. In speaking to Classé they are pretty adamant that the manual provision for room correction performs best. I am certain this is true but the inclusion of automated control wouldn't have detracted from the SSP's appeal. The hardware is in there to support it and maybe with enough consumer interest rallying Classé will concede to reconsider implementing the software. As for perks that Classé resources could be assigned to I would rather see Dolby Volume employed. :T

[wettou]

The hardware is in there to support it and maybe with enough consumer interest rallying Classé will concede to reconsider implementing the software. As for perks that Classé resources could be assigned to I would rather see Dolby Volume employed. :T

I would agree I think that would give them more customers and nail the Denon? How can we ask Classé to consider to include the Audyssey MultiHQ