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  • Juan Cortez
    Member
    • May 2003
    • 88

    What would you choose????

    I have been looking aound for some upgrade options, from my current Denon AVR-2803, which is a fantastic receiver. So far I have narrowed it down to 3 options.

    NAD T773
    NAD T163 with T973
    Yamaha RX-Z9

    I have heard nothing but great things about these products. How does the YPAO on the Yamaha work? I was talking with my dealer and he is not a big fan of it, and that he tells hes technicians to set the receiver up mannually. I am using Paradigm Monitor 11's CC-370 2pairs of Monitor 7's and a PW-2200 v2. I was thinking of Rotel but my dealer doesn't carry them no more, so I have no access to them to do a A/B comparison with these products.

    Thanks

    Jay
    Jason
  • Andrew Pratt
    Moderator Emeritus
    • Aug 2000
    • 16507

    #2
    Juan that's really too bad about not having Rotel as an option as it would obviously be my first choice...where are you located?

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    • Trevor Schell
      Moderator Emeritus
      • Aug 2000
      • 10935

      #3
      I can just imagine how the NAD T773 would sound.
      I had the Nad T770 which I had to release due to
      the lack of power70wx5 to drive my Paradigm Studio 100's.
      However I would have to say that the NAD was one
      of the best receivers I have ever owned.
      Very dynamic it was.
      I have a good feeling the T773 is a real winner due
      to it's huge power.:yesnod:
      Trevor



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      • Juan Cortez
        Member
        • May 2003
        • 88

        #4
        Andrew

        I am located in Sudbury On. My dealer had them but he got rid of them because of the much higer price compared to NAD.

        Jay
        Jason

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        • Juan Cortez
          Member
          • May 2003
          • 88

          #5
          Trevor

          I had a chance to listen to the T773 for 10 mins, cause I was very busy that day. All I can say is wow that thing has power, considering it has 2 transformers . My dealer scared the other sales rep in the other room, because it was so loud . The price difference is 3k CDN for the T773 and 5k for both T169 and T973. Is it really worth it to go to the T163 and T973, opposed to the T773?

          Jay!
          Jason

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          • Whistler
            Member
            • Aug 2003
            • 74

            #6
            Hi,

            Is it the sound of the Denon you don't like, or what else could be the reason to switch . I am just curious, because a NAD and a Yamaha sound totally different then a Denon.

            Regards,

            Whistler
            The Mainframe

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            • Juan Cortez
              Member
              • May 2003
              • 88

              #7
              Whistler

              I am not dissapointed with the Denon. It is a very great sounding receiver, and i like it very much. However I feel the need for some extra power , as well as something that is software upgradeable. I did give a listen to the T773 and I find the music sounds much more detailed, also with more power, and has a more darker sound than the Denon does. Im pretty much ruling out the Yamaha now because I realize that for 5 k CDN I can get the NAD separate combo, and the Yamaha costs an extra 1k compared to the NAD.


              Jay
              Jason

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              • Trevor Schell
                Moderator Emeritus
                • Aug 2000
                • 10935

                #8
                The price difference is 3k CDN for the T773 and 5k for both T169 and T973. Is it really worth it to go to the T163 and T973, opposed to the T773?
                Jay!,


                NAD T773
                7 x 110W Minimum Continuous Power into 4 / 8 ohms, all channels driven simultaneously
                230W, 320W, 390W IHF Dynamic Power into 8, 4 & 2 ohms, respectively
                PowerDriveâ„¢
                High Current Holmgrenâ„¢ Toroidal Power Transformer
                Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital EX, ProLogic II, DTS, DTS ES, DTS NEO:6, Matrix 7.1, EARS and Stereo Enhanced Surround Modes
                HDCD®
                5 A/V Custom Presets Store Unique Settings
                Direct access speaker level adjustment for surround, center and subwoofer
                6 A/V Inputs all S-Video and Composite, full tape loops
                Component Video on 3 Inputs and 1 Output
                3 Audio Inputs, 1 tape loop
                6 Digital Inputs, 4 Coaxial, 2 TOS Link freely assignable
                2 Digital Outputs, 1 Coaxial, 1 TOS Link
                7.1 Analogue Input (for DVD Audio)
                Speaker A + B switching (Speakers stereo only)
                Multi-Source 2nd zone A/V pre-out with independent source and volume
                ZR-2 second Zone remote included discrete codes for independent zone
                NAD Soft Clippingâ„¢
                IR Input
                2 x IR Ouputs
                RS-232 Port interface for advanced control systems and software upgrade
                3 x 12V Trigger Outputs
                12V Trigger Input
                Preamp Outputs for all 7.1 channels (2 Subwoofers)
                Amplifi er Input for 7 Power Amps
                RDS FM/AM Tuner with 30 direct access presets
                HTR-2 Remote Control


                NAD T163

                Dolby Digital EX, Dolby Digital, ProLogic II, DTS, DTS ES, DTS NEO:6, Matrix 7.1, EARS, Stereo Enhanced Surround Modes
                HDCD Decoding, Stereo Bypass
                192kHz/24 bit DACs for all channels
                6 Video Inputs all S-Video and Composite, 2 tape loops
                HDTV Compatible Component Video on 3 Inputs and 1 Output
                3 Audio Inputs, 1 Tape Loop
                6 Digital Inputs, 4 Coaxial, 2 TOS Link freely assignable
                2 Digital Outputs, 1 Coaxial, 1 TOS Link
                7.1 Analogue Input
                Analogue input levels are adjustable for best S/N ratio
                Pre-amp Outputs employ discrete component buffer amps for ultra-low output impedance
                and high current drive
                Zone 2 A/V PreOut with independent source and volume
                RS-232 port interface for advanced control systems and software upgrades
                Firmware upgradeable via RS-232 port
                3 x 12V Trigger Outputs, 12V Trigger Input
                IR Input, 3 x IR Output
                All Inputs can be renamed, and preferred surround mode is saved to input location
                5 Custom Scenario Presets store unique speaker setting (Bass Management) surround mode and tone
                control settings for instant recall
                HTR-2 - 8 Device Illuminated Learning Remote with Macro function
                ZR-2 Remote with unique Zone 2 commands


                NAD T973

                7 x 140W Minimum Continuous Power (8 / 4 Ohms); all channels driven simultaneously
                2 x 200W Continuous Power (8 / 4 Ohms)
                230W, 390W and 450W IHF Power into 8, 4 and 2 ohms, respectively
                Mono-block, Modular construction
                Differential, Class A input circuit topology
                High Current Holmgrenâ„¢ Toroidal Power Transformer
                Input gain control for each individual channel
                Gold Plated RCA Inputs
                NAD Soft Clippingâ„¢
                12V Trigger for automated ON/OFF operation

                Jay,,It comes down to budget I guess.
                It seems the Pre/Pro is identical to the T773 in terms of features and
                inputs outputs. I couldn't see any differences.
                Going the seperates route gives you more power at 140Watts/ch
                vs 110Watts/ch and you would be paying a 2K difference for that.
                Last edited by Trevor Schell; 10 May 2004, 21:22 Monday.
                Trevor



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                • Juan Cortez
                  Member
                  • May 2003
                  • 88

                  #9
                  Thanks

                  From what I have heard the preamps are the same in both, but the T163 is a tad batter, but not by much. Also from what I have learned a 30 watt difference won't be much of a difference, maybe I'll get a 2 db increase if I am lucky but that is not alot in terms of volume. I think I might just go the T773 and use the extra $$$$ saved towards and new DVD player and a new CD player I myself am not to worried about the amp section on the NAD since thier amps are very powerful and rated at true output. Since this receiver has 2 transformers I don't think that will be a issue


                  Jay!
                  Jason

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                  • Trevor Schell
                    Moderator Emeritus
                    • Aug 2000
                    • 10935

                    #10
                    Good Choice.
                    Even down the road you could add in the T973.
                    That would give you some great bi-amping options and
                    some astonishing power..:yesnod:
                    Trevor



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                    • Danbry39
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 1584

                      #11
                      I listened to some speakers for around 4 hours (that's what I went to listen to). They were paired with a NAD CD player, the NAD T163, and a Parasound amp. The system sounded pretty spectacular, so I'd have to assume the T163 was part and parcel to this.
                      Keith

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                      • Juan Cortez
                        Member
                        • May 2003
                        • 88

                        #12
                        Another thought came to my mind. What about getting Anthem MCA 20 and MCA 50 add to my Denon and than later on get the NAD T163, or even the AVM-20?

                        thanks again
                        Jason

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                        • claypool
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 2

                          #13
                          hello
                          I live in Europe (Italy)
                          does anyone know if Rotel 1066 and NAD T163 would accept PAL video signal and if do they work with 220 volt?

                          thank you
                          regards

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                          • claypool
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 2

                            #14
                            anyone can confirm this information?
                            I'd like to buy a surround processor in USA (I live in Europe) but I don't know if it will accept PAL signal and 220 volt

                            thank you

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                            • aarsoe
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2004
                              • 795

                              #15
                              Hi

                              Even though my 1066 was purchased in Europe, I can tell you that it handles NTSC and PAL signals without any problems. So I would expect the same from a US model.
                              In fact - an easy way to test it is to go to a US Rotel dealer with a PAL DVD and use a Rotel DVD player to test it. On the back the Rotel players have a PAL/NTSC switch, so it can output both types..

                              However I dont know if the 1066 can be switched to 230V without changing the entire power supply. I know that the Rotel Amps can do it, as it is stated in the manuals, but my 1066 manual dont state anything about that..
                              And if you have to change the entire power supply, then it becomes pretty expensive, not to mention the warrenty issues...

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