What is the brand of internal wiring in the B&W 800 Series?

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  • SoundEngine355
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 313

    What is the brand of internal wiring in the B&W 800 Series?

    Does anyone know the brand of internal wiring in the 800 Series? I know they use the same cables from the 805s to the 800D. They look about 14AWG and might be a copper silver coated cable.

    Any ideas?

    Heres an example from the B&W 803D:

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    [Music] B&W 800D | Classe CDP202 +M400s | Velodyne DD15
  • aarsoe
    Senior Member
    • May 2004
    • 795

    #2
    B&W have always been using Van den Hul cables for internal usage. It is a special version of their CS122 sold as a hook up wire.

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    • SoundEngine355
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 313

      #3
      Originally posted by aarsoe
      B&W have always been using Van den Hul cables for internal usage. It is a special version of their CS122 sold as a hook up wire.
      Thanks, I was told by B&W yesterday they cannot tell me the brand, but they can tell me the Tweeter/Midrange are normally copper/silver and the Woofers are copper.
      SoundEngine355

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      [Music] B&W 800D | Classe CDP202 +M400s | Velodyne DD15

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      • Alaric
        Ultra Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 4143

        #4
        I think wkhanna has a thread around here somewhere detailing the upgrades to internal wiring he's made in his speakers. If IIRC , it was very informative-and intriguing.
        Lee

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        • SoundEngine355
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 313

          #5
          cannot find the thread.
          SoundEngine355

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          [Music] B&W 800D | Classe CDP202 +M400s | Velodyne DD15

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          • Alaric
            Ultra Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 4143

            #6
            I'll poke around for it
            Lee

            Marantz PM7200-RIP
            Marantz PM-KI Pearl
            Schiit Modi 3
            Marantz CD5005
            Paradigm Studio 60 v.3

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            • Alaric
              Ultra Senior Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 4143

              #7
              My bad. It was PewterTA. I knew it was a fellow Steelers fan , just got the wrong one! Here's the link http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=29953
              Lee

              Marantz PM7200-RIP
              Marantz PM-KI Pearl
              Schiit Modi 3
              Marantz CD5005
              Paradigm Studio 60 v.3

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              • sakgoz79
                Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 30

                #8
                Is there any certain info about internal cable brand? Someone say van den hull but someone say kimber so which one is true? Also you can find b&w cdc 16 series cable is it logical to use this cable with 800 diamond series?

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                • wkhanna
                  Grumpy Old Super Moderator Emeritus
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 5673

                  #9
                  specifications on the wire B&W uses on its various speakers is likely company confidential information.
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                  • spaceteddy
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 20

                    #10
                    Replaced the lower bass element, wich was a warranty issue. 804D. I noticed the element was connected with cable shoes, it was not soldered. A bit dissapointed..

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                    • Alaric
                      Ultra Senior Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 4143

                      #11
                      Originally posted by spaceteddy
                      Replaced the lower bass element, wich was a warranty issue. 804D. I noticed the element was connected with cable shoes, it was not soldered. A bit dissapointed..
                      The link in post #7 does offer a solution to that. I would imagine soldering all the connections during production would add considerably to the price of new speakers.
                      Lee

                      Marantz PM7200-RIP
                      Marantz PM-KI Pearl
                      Schiit Modi 3
                      Marantz CD5005
                      Paradigm Studio 60 v.3

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                      • corbelli
                        Junior Member
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 29

                        #12
                        My 801D and HTM1D have Van den Hull CS series cable. I'm expect help you

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                        • PewterTA
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 2901

                          #13
                          B&W uses crimped push on terminals for serviceability... that's the only reason. Compared to soldering I'm not sure exactly the amount of difference, how to measure that would be tough to do and is probably minimal, that would be my guess. But for me soldering is a better solution.

                          I'm decent sure that they don't use Kimber. Van Den Hull sounds right, it's been a long time since I looked at the cable that I pulled out of those 600 series 3 speakers (which are still in use today at a friends house). If I had to do it again, I might have done a copper/silver to the mid and tweeter and plain copper to the bass drivers... I'd probably also look at Cardas, DH Labs, or JPS Labs... there's another one I'm thinking of but it's on the other laptop and I can't remember. I know WKHanna and I were talking when he upgrades his NAT P. speakers he's thinking of buying some Mapleshade Double Helix V.2 Speaker Cables to do the internals with. He's got the Golden Helix from Mapleshade and we've put those cables up against some pretty expensive speaker cables and they definitely held their own or were equal to the $$$$$$$ cables.

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