An update on the 2.5-way speaker project called the SunOnes:
6/15/01 - One last try with the current topology (2nd order on the tweeter, 4th order on upper midwoofer, 2nd order on lower midwoofer):
Graph 19
While it's got less glare from the midwoofer's output in the 3000-5000Hz range, it doesn't sound right. I'm taking some time off this XO and going to work on my other speaker project, the SunTwos (a 2-way speaker).
7/9/01 - 7/10/01 A change of scenery:
After spending some time tweaking the SunTwos, I decided that I needed to revisit th 4th order filters for both tweeter and upper midbass for the SunOnes. I initially got the impedance for the upper midwoofer wrong (thinking that with 2 midwoofers, I would have to half the impedance from their parallel connection, but as it turns out, this was not the case, once I was getting into the crossover region of 2KHz, the lower midwoofer was not making much effect on the overall woofer impedance, so I had to adjust my capacitor and inductor values accordingly.
Graph 20
Obviously the filter values for the upper midwoofer are wrong with the response that I measured (and yes, the speaker did not sound good at all with all the midbass sucked out). My inductors were too small (by almost 50%), and my capacitors were too large in value (by over 200%).
Graph 21
So I make some educated guesses at what I think the revised values for the C's and L's, and it raised the output of the upper midwoofer. But I didn't think a 4th order should have such a shallow slope roll-off, and I didn't quite like how the tweeter filter was kicking in around 2500Hz. I could still hear the glare, and it didn't sound so good either. I knew I was close. I made some more educated guesses (played around with modelling 4th order filters at certain frequency points to get a feel of how the C's and L's values moved as I went up or down in frequency).
Graph 22
After making some more changes to the C's and L's, I hit the jackpot. I do what I thought I needed to do to move the tweeter break frequency towards 2000Hz, and the same with the upper midwoofer. The slopes for both the tweeter and upper midwoofer filters are now behaving as I wanted them to perform. They each have nice steep slopes, and the glare is finally gone from the speakers. I listened to some music, and was greeted with a nice wide soundstage, and was certainly able to pick out the location of the instruments mixed into the tracks. The 500Hz-2KHz region is a little flat and I think I will try one more tweak tonight (increasing the inductor pair on the filter for the upper midwoofer to gain just a little more output). But it's amazing how much the inductors can affect the audio quality of the upper midwoofer.
Hopefully the end is near with the major tweaking on the SunOnes.
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6/15/01 - One last try with the current topology (2nd order on the tweeter, 4th order on upper midwoofer, 2nd order on lower midwoofer):
Graph 19
While it's got less glare from the midwoofer's output in the 3000-5000Hz range, it doesn't sound right. I'm taking some time off this XO and going to work on my other speaker project, the SunTwos (a 2-way speaker).
7/9/01 - 7/10/01 A change of scenery:
After spending some time tweaking the SunTwos, I decided that I needed to revisit th 4th order filters for both tweeter and upper midbass for the SunOnes. I initially got the impedance for the upper midwoofer wrong (thinking that with 2 midwoofers, I would have to half the impedance from their parallel connection, but as it turns out, this was not the case, once I was getting into the crossover region of 2KHz, the lower midwoofer was not making much effect on the overall woofer impedance, so I had to adjust my capacitor and inductor values accordingly.
Graph 20
Obviously the filter values for the upper midwoofer are wrong with the response that I measured (and yes, the speaker did not sound good at all with all the midbass sucked out). My inductors were too small (by almost 50%), and my capacitors were too large in value (by over 200%).
Graph 21
So I make some educated guesses at what I think the revised values for the C's and L's, and it raised the output of the upper midwoofer. But I didn't think a 4th order should have such a shallow slope roll-off, and I didn't quite like how the tweeter filter was kicking in around 2500Hz. I could still hear the glare, and it didn't sound so good either. I knew I was close. I made some more educated guesses (played around with modelling 4th order filters at certain frequency points to get a feel of how the C's and L's values moved as I went up or down in frequency).
Graph 22
After making some more changes to the C's and L's, I hit the jackpot. I do what I thought I needed to do to move the tweeter break frequency towards 2000Hz, and the same with the upper midwoofer. The slopes for both the tweeter and upper midwoofer filters are now behaving as I wanted them to perform. They each have nice steep slopes, and the glare is finally gone from the speakers. I listened to some music, and was greeted with a nice wide soundstage, and was certainly able to pick out the location of the instruments mixed into the tracks. The 500Hz-2KHz region is a little flat and I think I will try one more tweak tonight (increasing the inductor pair on the filter for the upper midwoofer to gain just a little more output). But it's amazing how much the inductors can affect the audio quality of the upper midwoofer.
Hopefully the end is near with the major tweaking on the SunOnes.
PatCave; HT Pix;Gear;DIY Projects;DVDs; LDs
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