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  • locomk
    Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 91

    speaker connection question?

    I was at a high end audio store, and the salesman told me the best way of hooking up my speakers was to run one wire (either positive or negative) to the high pass and than one wire (positive or negative) to the low pass. so that the wires were at a angle, and then let the strap connecters connect highs and lows. his reasoning was that more power would pass through all the terminals and there would be better balance between highs and lows in the sound.

    is this true, anybody do this or recommend something else.
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  • whoaru99
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2004
    • 638

    #2
    Originally posted by locomk
    I was at a high end audio store, and the salesman told me the best way of hooking up my speakers was to run one wire (either positive or negative) to the high pass and than one wire (positive or negative) to the low pass. so that the wires were at a angle, and then let the strap connecters connect highs and lows. his reasoning was that more power would pass through all the terminals and there would be better balance between highs and lows in the sound.

    is this true, anybody do this or recommend something else.
    IMO it's BS...

    The straps are typically so short and of sufficient cross-section for the current that the terminals are effectively one with each other and no difference will result.

    If any argument could be made, and that's a BIG IF, I'd say the feeds should go to the low frequency terminals since that's were the majority of power will be required, then leaving only the small current, relatively speaking, to travel through the jumpers to the high frequency section. Since the current to the high frequency section is much less, there is less voltage drop (not that it's in any way significant in this example) on the jumpers. Hence, theoretically better performance that way, IMO.

    To be clear though, I believe it matters not...
    There are some things which are impossible to know, but it is impossible to know which things these are. :scratchhead:

    ----JAFFE'S PRECEPT

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    • locomk
      Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 91

      #3
      yeah i thought it was some bs when i heard it, just thought i'd post the question to see if anyone else heard of it before. i just did it on my system and seems like i lost some bass, so i'm changing it back.

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      • JonMarsh
        Mad Max Moderator
        • Aug 2000
        • 15260

        #4
        This technique is called bi-wiring, and some folks swear by it- others swear at it. The thinking behind it is that it will lower the interaction between the HF spectrum and LF spectrum when you have long speaker cables. In practice, if you're using the same weight of cable, the main benefit might be lower net resistance and inductance.

        Since I don't favor long speaker cables, and will re-locate power amps to avoid them, I have never used this technique myself, and generally prefer a hell for stout low impedance cable that's not too long, and uses a braided geometry for low inductance, and lots of copper for low resistance.

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        • David Meek
          Moderator Emeritus
          • Aug 2000
          • 8938

          #5
          Braided copper bridge cables, eh Jon? :T
          .

          David - Trigger-happy HTGuide Admin

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          • caleb
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 514

            #6
            Forgive me Jon, but this is not bi-wiring as we know it.

            All in all we can this B-S.

            Real bi-wiring involves TWO SETS of wires, joined at the amp and separated at the speaker.

            Or have I been smoking something for the past 30 years?

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            • Karma
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 801

              #7
              Originally posted by JonMarsh
              This technique is called bi-wiring, and some folks swear by it- others swear at it. The thinking behind it is that it will lower the interaction between the HF spectrum and LF spectrum when you have long speaker cables. In practice, if you're using the same weight of cable, the main benefit might be lower net resistance and inductance.

              Since I don't favor long speaker cables, and will re-locate power amps to avoid them, I have never used this technique myself, and generally prefer a hell for stout low impedance cable that's not too long, and uses a braided geometry for low inductance, and lots of copper for low resistance.

              ~Jon
              HI,
              Yes John, caleb is right. I think you just minunderstood the post as I did initially. Gosh, there is enough snake oil surrounding cables without adding this one. The dealer should be taken to the famous Dark Tales of Cable Blasphemy Tower for 20 years of torture.

              BTW, I biwire and think it is good, better. Maybe I should also be taken to the tower. :evil:

              Sparky

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              • PewterTA
                Moderator
                • Nov 2004
                • 2901

                #8
                I did find out that connecting the wires (both) to the HI terminal created a better "sounding" sound. As in I thought the Highs seemed clearer and more defined. It was enough that I changed all my speakers over to be binded to the HI posts instead of the Low.

                But as far as what your saying locomk... all I could say is try it... I don't think it would really matter at all in my personal opinion.
                Digital Audio makes me Happy.
                -Dan

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                • NewBuyer
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 122

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PewterTA
                  I did find out that connecting the wires (both) to the HI terminal created a better "sounding" sound. As in I thought the Highs seemed clearer and more defined...


                  PewterTA, that is interesting. Could it possibly have been just a placebo effect happening there? :scratchhead:

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