Acoustics - The broad brush approach

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  • Pieter
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 219

    Acoustics - The broad brush approach

    Let’s see if there’s any consensus about this.

    For HT we want the front wall absorptive as low and high in frequency as possible. The rear wall diffusive and the side walls a mixed bag of diffusion and absorption. The ceiling mostly diffusive with a touch of absorption and the floor absorptive.

    For 2-channel music the front portion of the room should be lively and diffusive, floor to walls to ceiling and the rear end of the room absorptive.

    For multi-channel music the ….?

    Bass traps applied mostly to corners and if you have the know-how, panel traps and Helmholtz resonators where appropriate in frequency and location.

    I’m not stating, I’m asking. Wish for those who’ve actually put saw to wood and felt the itch of fiberglass in their boxers to respond.
  • Patt
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 922

    #2
    Originally posted by Pieter
    Wish for those who’ve actually put saw to wood and felt the itch of fiberglass in their boxers to respond.
    Hi Pieter,
    I have the hands on in a general construction field but not in Home Theatre. Here are some dot com places I've run across in the past that I have bookmarked thinking it may help me.

    Foambymail.
    Acousticsfirst.
    Realtraps.
    Acousticalsolutionsinc.
    Acousticsciencescorporation.
    Questacousticalinteriors.
    Auralex.

    Good Luck with your project and if you have any specific remodeling questions I "may" be able to contribute.
    ......Pat

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    • Pieter
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2005
      • 219

      #3
      Patt, thanks for the response.

      Trouble is due to visiting those sites. There's too much conflicting advice, whom am I to believe?

      Why not ask the folks here what they've done or are doing? What do the results sound like?

      See if there's consensus.

      Hope we're not in for, "Red boxers are the only ones to prevent the itch. They'll ga right thru them fensie green uns." No, not that "itch"!

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      • Patt
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2005
        • 922

        #4
        There is so much information out there it is hard to know where to start. I didn't mean to make it harder to figure out.....just thought you could find something of interest.

        My only experience is with my two rooms with stereos in them. The room with the most heavily damped furniture drapery flooring walls and ceiling is the best. The one with hard walls and ceiling lots of glass and leather furniture isn't so great.

        It really does make a difference if the surfaces are reflective or absorptive(sp?).
        ......Pat

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        • Kingdaddy
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2004
          • 355

          #5
          I've done a lot of research and it has lead me to believe that the Realtraps site has the better info. They promote broadband absorption for the whole room in stages (shown on mini traps install guide). Last thing to do is worry about diffusion, and maybe not at all.


          I'm trying a DIY version of these, should know the results in a few weeks.
          My Center Channel Project

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          • ThomasW
            Moderator Emeritus
            • Aug 2000
            • 10934

            #6
            Pieter,

            I've used DIY traps/panels for a decade or more. They're cheap to build and work well. I also have oriental rugs hung on some of the walls.

            For the best multi-channel most of the time one wants a acoustically 'dead' room. Obviously that's not the case for 2 channel.

            For most people a mix of traps and diffusers is the best bet.

            IB subwoofer FAQ page


            "Complicated equipment and light reflectors and various other items of hardware are enough, to my mind, to prevent the birdie from coming out." ...... Henri Cartier-Bresson

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            • Azeke
              Super Senior Member
              • Mar 2003
              • 2123

              #7
              Good information gentlemen, I prefer the DIY method.

              Thanks for the link Thomas.

              Regards,

              Azeke

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              • Pieter
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2005
                • 219

                #8
                Mike, Realtraps is a very informative site. What I appreciate is Ethan’s sense of ethics. Even though Realtraps is a commercial endeavour, he is liberal to the extent of supplying plans to build your own traps. One of the first sites that made me aware of the acoustic anomalies inherent in rooms and ways of alleviating this.

                Thomas, when I get to the stage of actually constructing acoustic treatment I’ll keep your link in mind. Thanks.

                Thomas, your second statement is the one causing the trouble, and the reason I started this post.

                Do you agree with the following, “With 2-channel we rely on the room to create a diffuse sound in order to recreate the sense of space and ambience of the recording.”

                And, “The contribution of the room with multi-channel should be minimal in order for the speakers to create the sense of space and localization necessary.”

                Just a wordy way of saying what you’ve said: “dead” for multi-channel and “not the case” for 2-channel.

                So the two requisites are mutually exclusive?

                And your third statement an attempt at compromise?

                Good, so how do we do this? Do we make the front wall absorptive and a mixed bag for the sides and rear?

                Time for me to return the favour and post a link: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=255432

                Found this after starting this post; it’s pertinent, up to ‘on the nose’, and the discussion gets lively.
                Last edited by Pieter; 09 June 2005, 04:33 Thursday.

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